Where do you stand with regards to the death penalty?

semi-pro waster · 27 Oct 2010 at 22:22

VFM Addict said:
Witnesses can lie, evidence can be faked and so no juror could ever be 100% certain unless he/she saw it him/herself. But if they had seen it they could not be on the jury because they'd be a witness.

All in all that's a dilemma that its impossible to ever resolve.

That's partly the point, we've got no facility in our judicial system for the question of 100% guilt being mooted so a new standard of proof would have to be invented and we seem to have enough trouble sometimes with merely our civil and criminal standards and they've been in effect for hundreds of years.

w3bbo said:
Believe me, I would not hesitate to take the life of any scum who had been proven, beyond any reasonable doubt, committing such heinous crimes and I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Sorry if that offends you but it is something I feel very strong about. For me, the act of abusing, sexually or otherwise, a child is beyond comprehension and death is perhaps too good for the person involved, a millenia of torture would be more fitting.

It doesn't offend me in the least, I'm just suggesting that it's perhaps not as easy as you may think to take human life, especially without training/conditioning in how to do so.

wannabedamned · 27 Oct 2010 at 22:24

vonhelmet said:
I have two daughters, 4 and 1. You can think what you like about them. Don't touch them, mind...

No doubt one of the funniest things I've read on here in a long time

2bit · 27 Oct 2010 at 22:25

Where do I stand on the death penalty?

Teetering on the edge of my shonky stepladder with a wet rope around my throat.

Even odds.

[FnG]magnolia · 27 Oct 2010 at 22:31

Can you imagine what the UK would be like if GD was able to dictate how the justice system worked?

My God, I've just scared myself.

2bit · 27 Oct 2010 at 22:34

[FnG]magnolia;17665163 said:
Can you imagine what the UK would be like if GD was able to dictate how the justice system worked?

My God, I've just scared myself.

You obviously don't read the 'Daily Mail'. It's educational don't you know?

[FnG]magnolia · 27 Oct 2010 at 22:37

2bit said:
You obviously don't read the 'Daily Mail'. It's educational don't you know?

Oh, I know that Broken Britain is all the fault of them black fellas, the muslims, the gays, the ruined youth, the scroungers and the paedos (did I miss any?). It just always surprises me how many of the GD posters agree with the Daily Mail's stance.

SEND EM BACK! NO, WAIT, KILL THEM! NO, KILL THEM THEN SEND THEM BACK! :mad:

This Side Up · 27 Oct 2010 at 22:40

I used to think "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out!".

Now I don't think that way. I do certainly believe the whole political correctness/human rights should FOAD ASAP, I also believe there should be a punishment to suit the crime (i.e. decades behind bars for attempted murder, life = die behind bars for murderers/rapists/traitors).

As for killing them? No.

"One who hunts monsters should be wary, lest they become a monster themselves".

We are civilized society. Death penalty doesn't deter crimes - just look at Septic land for this.

w3bbo · 27 Oct 2010 at 22:43

semi-pro waster said:
It doesn't offend me in the least, I'm just suggesting that it's perhaps not as easy as you may think to take human life, especially without training/conditioning in how to do so.

Oh I agree, I can't imagine what it was like for say the pilots of the Enola Gay. Perhaps even worse is for those who are more up close and personal. However they were killing the inncocents, something I don't believe I could have done despite the right reasons for doing so. This is much more difficult than executing someone for something they have been proven guilty for. Sure it wouldn't be easy, there would always be the self doubt and questioning involved, however if...and it really would have to be a big IF, those concerned were beyond doubt guilty then like I said previous, I would have no qualms in carrying out the deed.