Trying to justify Canon 50mm f1.2 L

AtticusFinch said:
Thanks for the thoughts, I'll order the Canon and Sigma 1.4 lenses and try them both out and decide which one to return once I've had the chance to play with them both to se if I'm happy with the results.
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I bet the retailers must love you.

Could you not try them in a high street shop or if you're intending to use one for say a whole weekend then really you should hire them. Isn't really too cool to do what you're proposing - you'll either screw over an honest retailer or screw over an unsuspecting customer of a dodgy retailer who's happy to re-sell your return as 'new'.
 
I've got a Sigma 50mm 1.4 on the way, hopefully it'll be here tomorrow. I can't wait after selling most of my kit!
 
I'm playing by the rules

dowie said:
I bet the retailers must love you.

Could you not try them in a high street shop or if you're intending to use one for say a whole weekend then really you should hire them. Isn't really too cool to do what you're proposing - you'll either screw over an honest retailer or screw over an unsuspecting customer of a dodgy retailer who's happy to re-sell your return as 'new'.
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If a reatiler sells things and has their own policy which says that I can buy something and return it if I'm not happy with it within a specified number of days, then I have no problem utilising that service.

There's nothing dishonest or wrong about me doing this, and if the retailer lies and subsequently sells it as new, that's not my beef.

In my view, you'd be daft to buy a lens without being able return it for unhappiness with image factors or on the spot trying it in a shop. In order for me to know whether I like a lens, I need to take it out and about and use it in the setting I would be using it in the future and compare and contrast the results from it, and see how it feels on the camera.

I liken the process to hi fi equipment. You need to take it home, put it in the environment it will be listened to, and play your music, sitting on your chair before you can be sure that its the item for you.
 
If it's the retailers own policy then fair enough I guess. All too often though the 7 day distance selling cooling off period that all internet sellers have to abide by gets abused. This is there so that if a product arrives and it's not how you thought it was (because you couldn't see it first in person) you can return it. Defective goods are covered by other consumer rights. Buying multiple products to see which one you prefer (the products are not defective in any way) is in my opinion abusing the 7 day returns policy. Loads of people do it though. I'm sure retailers build in extra cost to cover it all though :)

Anyway! :D My Sigma 50 arrived this morning, it's a solid bit of kit! Not had much time to play with it yet, but it's looking pretty tasty :)
 
AtticusFinch said:
If a reatiler sells things and has their own policy which says that I can buy something and return it if I'm not happy with it within a specified number of days, then I have no problem utilising that service.
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Its also the law when it comes to distance selling etc...

Its still abusing it, the whole reason the rule is in place is because you can't see the products - so if you've made some major oversight when purchasing you can return the goods.

It wasn't put into place so you can effectively hire some products for free then chose to buy the one you prefer. Yes you can legally do that but IMO that is taking the mickey. What do you expect happens to the product you return?

Would you also order say both the next ATI and Nvidia cards from OCUK, use them for a few days then decide which one you want to keep and which one you're happy to send back to Spie for him to take a loss on and have to re-sell as a return etc...
 
Just to clarify for those of you who are getting a little upset about my buy two and return one philosophy.

The Distance Selling Regulations allow a person to cancel a contract within a cooling off period without needing to have a reason at all. The cooling off period is there to allow people to change their minds after having made a purchase where the contract is concluded without a face to face interaction.

These regulations exist precisely to allow people that freedom to change their mind and are the embodiment of an EU directive on the topic.

Having said all that, as it happens I am not ordering anything on line, rather am purchasing from a dealer who allows a 30 day return period for lenses purchased and sells goods on an "approval" type basis. So if the seller is selling on that basis the: a) the distance selling regulations have no application in any event; and b) it's entirely up to the dealer to do what he wants with the lens that I don't want.
 
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