What unpopular opinions do you hold?

v0n said:
Unpopular opinions? Let's see...

- Anti smoking ban is bull. Anyone supporting anti smoking ban is an idiot. Pub is a dedicated place where people do unhealthy things. Kill their liver with alcohol. Kill their lungs with tabacco. Eat peanuts someone else wiped their hands with after leaving toilet. Cheer progression of violent games with crowd of booze sweating, drunken men. Without those things, there is no use for pubs.
But then you go to your local watering hole and say "I don't want you all to smoke, for my clothes smell with humidor when I wake up with hangover, puke on my shoes and reek of digested hopes extract in my breath the next day". WTF is wrong with you boy? You knew the rules going in. Going to pub to complain about smell of tabacco in your hair is like going to McDonalds and complaining about carbs and fattening food. Joining street riots and complaining that police exercised force on your four letters. "But what about people working there?" What about them? Again - simple - you don't go to work for butcher if you don't like blood, you don't become plumber if you don't like to get wet. You don't run strip club if you don't like to objectify women. Do I need to spell it? If you don't like smoke or booze - don't work in a bar! I don't smoke, btw. It's the principle that annoys me.
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Roughly 20% of people in the UK smoke. Why should 20% of people make visiting a pub or other such establishment an unpleasant experience for others?

Personally, I don't have a problem with people who smoke or being with them, but I fully understand why the smoking ban was brought in. I also know several people who quit smoking because of it, which can only be a good thing.
 
v0n said:
Couldn't they exist in purely commercial space?
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No, talk sports who listens to that. Radio news journalism is so much better than the TV you cant get away with graphics for idiots. Even America has public service broadcasting, maybe im biased but our BBC radio stations are so much betterthan the commercial stations, geez look at classical FM same old trite ****e every night.
 
Deiwos said:
Roughly 20% of people in the UK smoke. Why should 20% of people make visiting a pub or other such establishment an unpleasant experience for others?
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Roughly 35% of people in the UK drink alcohol in dedicated places. Why should 35% of drunks make visiting a pub or other such establishment an unpleasant experience for others who want to watch cricket with glass of orange juice or enjoy bangers and mash with their families?

See where we could go with that way of thinking? :D
 
v0n said:
Roughly 35% of people in the UK drink alcohol in dedicated places. Why should 35% of drunks make visiting a pub or other such establishment an unpleasant experience for others who want to watch cricket with glass of orange juice or enjoy bangers and mash with their families?

See where we could go with that way of thinking? :D
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Not really, Drinking just effects the drinker, and drinking doesnt make you a drunk
 
v0n said:
Roughly 35% of people in the UK drink alcohol in dedicated places. Why should 35% of drunks make visiting a pub or other such establishment an unpleasant experience for others who want to watch cricket with glass of orange juice or enjoy bangers and mash with their families?

See where we could go with that way of thinking? :D
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Well you have the fact that only a small amount of the 35% who drink alcohol will be drunk and disorderly in the scenario you're describing whereas I'd say that something close to 100% of the 20% that do smoke would smoke in a pub or restaurant if the opportunity arose.

I completely agree that people who do get excessively drunk ruin it for others but your line of thinking is completely wrong if you think alcohol consumption ruins visiting pubs etc for everyone.
 
mglover070588 said:
I think smoking is a good thing because dead people can't claim pensions.
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True, and we contribute much, much more in tax than we cost the NHS for healthcare. That being said, I think self-inflicted conditions like smoking your way to COPD and lung cancer should be a low priority for NHS budgeting. I don't expect to get preferential treatment for a choice I made. I'll still stick up for smokers' rights though, because if there's one group of whining little girls that really drives me crazy it's Non-Smokers - capital N, capital S. It's an issue upon which I'm divided, because I completely agree with most of what they're saying, even to the point of gradually banning smoking altogether, but the people on that side of the camp are such a cissy bunch of whingers that I can't bring myself to side with them.
 
wannabedamned said:
Not really, Drinking just effects the drinker, and drinking doesnt make you a drunk
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Deiwos said:
Well you have the fact that only a small amount of the 35% who drink alcohol will be drunk and disorderly in the scenario you're describing whereas I'd say that something close to 100% of the 20% that do smoke would smoke in a pub or restaurant if the opportunity arose.
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Ok.. ok.. so let me present it this way - a fifth of pub goers want to smoke, while they enjoy their beer. Wouldn't it make more sense if a fifth of pubs had license to allow smoking/had smoking room, to give people free choice, rather than 100% of pubs sending 5th of its customers to stand outside?
 
Prison based gripes;

- I think people in prison should only have communication access to legal professionals, and no communication to friends or family, either in person, via phone or letter for the duration of their sentence.

- Prisoners should have a basic cell with bed, sink, toilet, and table and chair. They should be locked up for majority of the day, be let out for exercise and showers. Basic healthy food should be served at their cells.

- Extra time out of cells can be gained by doing vocational courses.

People say that wouldn't work, and they'd kick off, so? They'll be in a cell 22 hours a day, they can kick off until their faces turn blue. "rehabilitation" isn't working, as the examples of the scum we have who are career criminals shows. So making prison a place where you really don't want to be, might be worth a shot.
 
v0n said:
Ok.. ok.. so let me present it this way - a fifth of pub goers want to smoke, while they enjoy their beer. Wouldn't it make more sense if a fifth of pubs had license to allow smoking/had smoking room, to give people free choice, rather than 100% of pubs sending 5th of its customers to stand outside?
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Then you just open an entire minefield of legal issues with licensing, employment probably even human rights (yeah yeah, smokers human rights blah blah blah), not mention the competition and selection of which venues will be allowed a smoking license.

If a village only has 1 pub, should that pub be allowed a license? Surely if it does then that means some other village with only 1 pub is or isn't allowed one.

Your idea is completely unmanageable which is why the blanket ban exists.
 
mglover070588 said:
1. The working class really have no idea how lucky they are. They have a very high standard of living for unskilled work.

2. Corporal punishment is desperately required in UK high schools.

3. Unions do more harm than good.

4. The UK is a pathetic joke compared to what it was 100 years ago. We owned so much of the world, now we own nothing and owe £££.

5. Immigrants are nowhere near as bad as the what we already have here. We have some scum who are British that need shooting.

6. Stop spending money on prisons, just jam them in and let them suffer.

7. Smoking is a tax on stupidity.

8. The death penalty is required.

9. Road tax has no purpose. If I have a 6 litre v8 then I already pay more tax through the fuel I use.

10. The 40% bracket of tax payers are getting ****ed the hardest the next tax year, not the poor.

11. Gays need to stop being in your face. If you want to do it, do it, there is no need to tell me about it.

12. Anyone who is unemployed and on benefits should be given a severe beating if they are caught in a pub/club or buying cigarettes or alcohol.

13. If everyone used resources like the US do, then the world would be completely buggered.

14. A filthy, vile, offensive anti-PC joke once in a while harms doesn't do anyone any harm.
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I agree with 1,3,4,5,7,10,11,12,14

I also really agree with the university education thing.

Funding for arts degrees and the like should be stopped/cut.
You don't need a degree to write a good book/speech, paint a pretty picture, or give your opinion on whether the Romans did anything for us.

What you do need a degree for though are the sciences and engineering, then once you get past undergraduate level, your teaching yourself anyway.

Funding should be given to scientific researchers, not social 'science' undergraduates.
 
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