Choice between bmw 320 and saab 9-3 2.0t

DM · 30 Oct 2010 at 18:59

zipp0r said:
anything is better than a 106. a soggy old bmw isnt better than anything. you'll buy one, it'll loose all its water then the headgasket will fail blah blah. it will cost you more in time, parts and effort to fix than sorting out a newer simpler car.get that bmw is better than other cars thing out of your head, for the money you have you wont be able to buy a reliable one.

diamond mark found you a 2L non turbo for £600 with a full years mot, that is what you need when you have to buy a cheap car, you can not afford to be fussy, so be sensible.. as so far you are not.

My bad, crack on son and enjoy the purchase

Joshy · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:02

timmothy said:
You dont understand

Sorry, but honestly I don't you think you understand.

You're talking to someone who happily drives a cheap automatic barge that was being PDIed while I was still in pampers. I like old cheap, old cars and I enjoy owning them, but I'm under no illusion that they are the "best" form of cheap motoring because they just aren't.

Small cheap cars have a place and from the situation you describe yourself to be in, their place seems to be with you! From the sounds of it you need cheap, reliable transport. You're deluding yourself if you honestly, 150% believe that a £400 BMW is going to be either of those things for a substantial amount of time.

[TW]Fox · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:04

Sod it, I'm going to get flamed anyway so bring it on.

You cant afford a nice car. Stop trying to find ways around this basic fact and resign yourself to the fact you are going to need buy a crap car because you cant afford a nice one.

It's that simple.

Get money money, or get something crappy but reliable.

Peerzy · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:06

[TW]Fox;17682982 said:
Sod it, I'm going to get flamed anyway so bring it on.

You cant afford a nice car. Stop trying to find ways around this basic fact and resign yourself to the fact you are going to need buy a crap car because you cant afford a nice one.

It's that simple.

Get money money, or get something crappy but reliable.

No flaming, this is the sensible thing to do.

When you have £400 you need to do the sensible thing.

zipp0r · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:08

save your money as running costs for the car you already have. it will keep you on the road as better the devil you know, once you fix things on car, that thing doesnt tend to go wrong for a while.
i would get someone else to service and inspect your cars as you seem like the kind of person to scrimp on car maintenance and then get annoyed when it breaks :/

timmothy · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:14

How can you tell how relaible a car will be, i dont understand how people are saying a large car is less reliable than a rubbish small one. Sure if i was buying new parts then a saab would cost more to repair than a 106. But parts aside a Saab is going to be more reliable than some french tat.

What you can get in the way of small cheap car for £700

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...0/postcode/pl268qf/quicksearch/true?logcode=p

What you can get in the way of large cheap car for £50 less, with more MOT better condition and newer

Or even the one diamond linked to that had less than 100 000 miles.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...0/postcode/pl268qf/quicksearch/true?logcode=p

DM · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:15

Im honestly not sure what was wrong with the one i picked, that looked alright to me.

Peerzy pick him a winner!

[TW]Fox · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:18

timmothy said:
How can you tell how relaible a car will be, i dont understand how people are saying a large car is less reliable than a rubbish small one. Sure if i was buying new parts then a saab would cost more to repair than a 106. But parts aside a Saab is going to be more reliable than some french tat.

You obviously know everything, why waste our time asking questions?

Why not go and buy your nice flash prestige car for 500 quid? Everyone will think you are proper posh, innit.

For the record you dont need to get something small just something simple - maybe a Nissan Primera or something, I dunno.

Peerzy · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:19

£500 Bentley? No one wants one as they don't do very good MPG so should pick up a nice example for £500-£600?

DM · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:21

I tell you what i drove the other day that surprised me a nissan primera i think it was a 52 plate, anyway it had the dials in the centre of the dashboard, that was a tidy car for not much money.

timmothy · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:24

Now people are just being silly, yes I know i could get a nissan primera, the thing is the few examples i looked at dont seem to be in the same condition as the Saabs do.
I agree there are a lot of larger cars i could go for, but as said i have difficulty doing that because i have had bad luck with the cheap names before, i mean a Saab is so much more expensive new compared to a nissan primera, suely there is a reason.

I dont think i know everything, its just i said at the beginning i wanted a good quality car due to bad experience, this has become a talk about image, well thats not what i am basing it on, image was a discussion between bmw and saab. If i knew for act that if i bought a nissan primera it would be really reliable of course i would buy it over a presige car. The thing is at my price you take a chance and i just fancied my chances better with a saab than a Nissan,Peugeot, Ford or any of those other mass produced cars

Spamalot · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:26

DiamondMark said:
Im honestly not sure what was wrong with the one i picked, that looked alright to me.

Peerzy pick him a winner!

I liked it.

OP; just go and buy one for £500, report back how you get on in 6 months time. I'm sure it'll be fine.

Maybe we should do an ocuk sposered car, all we need is £5 in from 100 people to buy the lad a Saab! He'll have £500 for all those bills that way.

DM · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:26

Well get the Saab then and dont get hung up on a turbo, its just another 600 quid bill to go wrong.

DM · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:27

Spamalot said:
I liked it.

OP; just go and buy one for £500, report back how you get on in 6 months time. I'm sure it'll be fine.

Maybe we should do an ocuk sposered car, all we need is £5 in from 100 people to buy the lad a Saab! He'll have £500 for all those bills that way.

Il get the ball rolling with a tenner, thats quite a good experiment as it goes.

timmothy · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:32

This sponsored car thing sounds like a good idea and to add to the fun, if it develops any problems within 12 months the money is returned to overclockers for use on another experiment. Lets see how confident people are that my Saabmobile will break down.

DM · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:34

I think we should try this, but we should have a pole and let us pick the car.

Peerzy · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:36

The Polish buy crud cars, don't let them get involved.

timmothy · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:37

Peerzy said:
The Polish buy crud cars, don't let them get involved.

I thought they bought Audi A4's. Well all the Polish factory workers i used to work with had them.

beermonster · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:38

People aren't being silly, they're just trying to swing you round from the thinking that buying an older upmarket car at this price point is a good idea. It isn't unless the money you spend is completely disposable and you just need a runaround while your free up your £kks you have tied up in shares or whatever.

Spamalot · 30 Oct 2010 at 19:39

DiamondMark said:
Il get the ball rolling with a tenner, thats quite a good experiment as it goes.

Sod it, a tenner for me also. That's £20.

OP; the Saab costs more than the Nissan new because it's got more kit. That's why people are telling you not to bother, kit = bills. Euro vs Jap is quantity vs quality. While us lot were adding heated seats and air con to our cars the Asias were getting the basics 100% sorted!

I'm actually in Malaysia now. I've seen some Proton taxis with 600,000km on the clock. Even cheapo cars can run and run (given enough attention and new parts)

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