Ford Mondeo : Fuel Pump £1800? O.o

I know everyone said it, but at the time there was a distinct possibility otherwise. Lets not go back into all that though, eh? Next time you're in Exeter you're welcome to pop over for a cuppa and I'll show you the wadge of letters!

I don't know if I'd really want to be doing my own thing when big cats and hippos and things are involved!
 
iaind said:
I know everyone said it, but at the time there was a distinct possibility otherwise.
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No, you thought there was a possibility otherwise, we all knew there wasn't :p

I don't know if I'd really want to be doing my own thing when big cats and hippos and things are involved!
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There is that. Plus I doubt you can just rent from Hertz and go driving.
 
My mate had a guide who came equipped with a Land Rover all the time he was there, you dont want to end up eaten.
 
I remember I needed a new fuel pump on my '97 mondeo, came to £400 about 4 years ago. £1800 is taking the ****

Just out of interest does anyone know how much a 06 focus 1.6 fuel pump would cost to replace, it's just that I'm thinking of getting one ( the fuel pump is ok but it's just good to know these things )
 
dal said:
I remember I needed a new fuel pump on my '97 mondeo, came to £400 about 4 years ago. £1800 is taking the ****

Just out of interest does anyone know how much a 06 focus 1.6 fuel pump would cost to replace, it's just that I'm thinking of getting one ( the fuel pump is ok but it's just good to know these things )
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Petrol or diesel?

Don't put yourself off things if you don't know it's a common weak point, there's nothing to say the pumps on the focus are a common failure (I personally don't know). Get yourself onto forums, do some research on the common failure points of the car you're interested in. Then, research the actual cost of replacement, not third hand information that someone once posted - phone some local garages and ask the questions.

You've then got the facts, not the rumors, allowing you to make an informed decision
 
If it wasn't for Fox's knowledge of how much an Inspection 1 service should cost, I would have paid the £320 going rate in my area rather than the £220 I eventually got it for thanks to listening to the '3rd hand' information I got from here. Forums, particularly this one, are great for finding how much something should cost rather than just what the village idiot would like you to pay.

I seriously wonder IainD whether you intentionally try and stitch people up with your daft advice or whether you're just woefully misinformed :confused:
 
monkey_boy said:
If it wasn't for Fox's knowledge of how much an Inspection 1 service should cost, I would have paid the £320 going rate in my area rather than the £220 I eventually got it for thanks to listening to the '3rd hand' information I got from here. Forums, particularly this one, are great for finding how much something should cost rather than just what the village idiot would like you to pay.

I seriously wonder IainD whether you intentionally try and stitch people up with your daft advice or whether you're just woefully misinformed :confused:
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What's daft about encouraging people to get the facts? I think you misunderstand the term "third hand" - fox gave you information as direct, accurate knowledge. What I'm trying to discourage is people listening to posters who are I'll informed - like if I said "'omg, bmws cost loads to service, it'll be at least £500!!!" in your above example.

Read what I said again, I encouraged him to use forums like this, just emphasizing the imoportance of filtering out the facts from the opinions and rumors.

At least try reading and understanding posts before you start trying to insult people.
 
Look at how many different fuel pumps there are! Someone at Delphi / Bosch / Denso must have realised that there were weaknesses in the design and looked to improve on later revisions.

FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2008 Mk3 2.0 Diesel 1S7Q9A543TA 0470504024
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2008 Mk3 2.0 Diesel DELPHI 2S7Q9B395AF
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2008 Mk3 2.0 Diesel 6S7Q9B395AA DELPHI
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2008 Mk3 1.8 Diesel 1S4Q9B395BF DELPHI
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2008 Mk3 2.0 Diesel DELPHI 2C1Q9B395AB
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2008 Mk3 2.0 Diesel DELPHI 2S7Q9B395AE
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2008 Mk3 2.0 Diesel D6BA 0470504035 BOSCH
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2008 Mk3 2.0 Diesel D5BA 0470004009 BOSCH
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2007 Mk3 2.0 Diesel FNBA
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2007 Mk3 2.2 Diesel DELPHI 4C1Q9B395AB
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2007 Mk3 2.2 Diesel DELPHI 5S7Q9B395AA
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2007 Mk3 2.0 Diesel DELPHI 5S7Q9B395AA
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2007 Mk3 2.0 Diesel HJBB DELPHI 3S7Q9B395AA
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2007 Mk3 2.0 Diesel DENSO 5S7Q9B395AA
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2007 Mk3 2.0 Diesel DELPHI 4C1Q9B395AB
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2007 Mk3 2.0 Diesel HJBA DELPHI 2C1Q9B395AA
FORD MONDEO FUEL PUMP - 2000 to 2005 Mk3 2.0 Diesel D6BA 0470504021 BOSCH 1S7Q9A543AB
 
These forums have actually put me off getting a diesel, I was swayed by their fuel economy and cheap tax (and being a country boy I like their tractor noise) but I think I will stick with the petrol!

Safari aren't "that" expensive, even going during the school holiday period.
 
Nothing wrong with diesels in theory but it tends to be the non direct injection non common rail engines that tend to be more reliable. In the pursuit of more power and refinment reliability seems to have suffered. Hopefully reliability will improve with the next gen of designs. Don't forget that the tdci was ford's first attempt at an engine of that type. Just a shame that Ford didn't provide manufacturer support when they were made aware of the high rates of fuelling system related failures.
 
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Felix said:
These forums have actually put me off getting a diesel, I was swayed by their fuel economy and cheap tax (and being a country boy I like their tractor noise) but I think I will stick with the petrol!

Safari aren't "that" expensive, even going during the school holiday period.
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Like everything though, they're not all made equal - a lot are pretty bombproof. The really old mechanical injection cars will go om forever, The pug HDI and VW PD engines spring to mind as being particularly reliable but might be a bit old for your needs. The newest ones, I'd think it's a bit early to get any meaningful data about long term reliability.

Granted, the TDCI (not really the TDDI, bar the OPs problem which AFAIK isn't that common, there's little to go wrong with them), is probably towards the bottom of the reliability rankings - but if you've got all the facts then you can make your mind up. When I bought my old mondeo, I knew a DMF would cost 600, I knew injectors could cost a few hundred each. But on the plus side, the EGRs can be cleaned or blanked, unlike the vauxhall engines which need a fairly expensive replacement.

The other important thing is knowing how to spot the problems at the early stage. It's obviously a gamble, but so is any car - all I'm trying to get across is don't negate something because someone says "don't buy a diesel, it will explode"
 
iaind said:
all I'm trying to get across is don't negate something because someone says "don't buy a diesel, it will explode"
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Except that if people adhere to the old adage 'words whisper, actions shout', then they should look at your actions - you sold the TDCi to avoid the costs of injector/pump/glowplug/smoking/stalling problems, all of which would have cost megabucks and many headaches to rectify.

So in summary, its all very well acknowledging that early TDCi have reliability issues, but its akin to sticking your head into sand, when you then go on to try and suggest that's its no much of an issue. Self-contradiction at its finest.
 
I know this thread has gone off topic a bit, but I just thought I would say I got a quote today for my petrol mondeo's fuel pump to be replaced - £215 including labour+VAT :)
 
iaind said:
At least try reading and understanding posts before you start trying to insult people.
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Then, research the actual cost of replacement, not third hand information that someone once posted - phone some local garages and ask the questions.
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I'm sorry you're going to have to be patient and just explain it to me step-by-step. I keep re reading this quote and all I can get out of it is crap advice.
 
monkey_boy said:
I'm sorry you're going to have to be patient and just explain it to me step-by-step. I keep re reading this quote and all I can get out of it is crap advice.
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Maybe I should have been more clear.

There are people who will be able to tell you exactly the best price for a BMW service, or what you should be paying for a DMF replacement on a Mondeo. These facts come from actual experience and knowledge.

There are other people who will decide something is completely crap and regurgitate or exaggerate third hand information that they googled. ISTR seeing someone mention TDCI injector failure would cost £1000 - in fact, a full set would cost that and the odds of 4 going at once are slim. A google might reveal someone paying a grand for all 4 because they didn't know to get the, bench tested - a £75 job. So while both facts might be true - eg some people pay a grand to have all the injectors replaced and also that this is normally unnecessary - one fact is good information, the other is regurgitated and misunderstood. I use that as an example because its an area i have a bit of knowledge in.

Its all about choosing who to listen to and realising what you should be taken with a pinch of salt - especially in a forum like this, there are tons of kids who'll just recite what they have heard the big boys say - look at the first few posts of the Cliosport finance thread. One that started with someone with basically no clue saying it was a stupid idea, and ended with several people getting blinding deals.

Oh, and speaking to mechanics is always good too as prices often vary around the country
 
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