Yes thats a nicer car but its 6k dearer and not better out of hand, 100k is not the end of the line for these cars.
As i said 20 posts back if the 100k car has had some work done recently its quite possibly a better car than the 50k one.
20k 996 turbo
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Yes thats a nicer car but its 6k dearer and not better out of hand, 100k is not the end of the line for these cars.
As i said 20 posts back if the 100k car has had some work done recently its quite possibly a better car than the 50k one.
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To be fair my original point was an 'advert like that' - I was referring to the entire advert lack of picture/detail etc and all.
Plus LOOK at the photos. Is that the sort of place you park your high value supercars Mark? Round the back of some garages beside an old Celica?
Take a look at this advert:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1923211.htm
THAT is how I'd expect to see a well looked after perfect condition 911 Turbo advertised. Look at the detail. The photos. The location the car is kept in. etc etc. It all paints a much, much better picture. He requests a part ex of a classic air cooled 911 not a Ford Transit Van. That advert says to me 'This car is owned by a wealthy 911 Enthusiast'. The other advert says to me 'This car is owned by a chancer who's bought it well cheap innit and is punting it on before it explodes'.
Not at all! Just because you can buy something doesnt meant you can afford to run it! If that was true I'd buy an SL55 AMG.
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[TW]Fox;17717512 said:
Mate im not lieing i know half a dozen people with 50k cars parked outside council gaffs, but they are possibly the exception not the rule.
Its not a good advert, and i cant be bothered to phone him to see which of us is right.
In fact you are right but its point of view right not a fact right
That advert is lovely, but the man is a PH member, car fanatic etc , bah iv lost the plot now i cant think what my point was
This is nothing to do with your thread but I thought you may like this mark
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2136174.htm
Now thats a lot of car for the money.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2136174.htm
Now thats a lot of car for the money.
Why do people use this term ALL THE TIME? It's not really a lot of car for the money at all, is it? A £15k 2007 E65, now thats a lot of car for the money, but thirty grand for an E65 is just.. what they cost.
You're not tied to any dealer with a warranty.
Wouldnt put me off looking at it at all.
How do you know its a nail. he could be a busy business guy, with a fleet of vans on the road doing courier work ? Where really writing a advert on a whim one morning he decided to get rid of the porsche giving little thought to it cause 20k is so little to him ?
How do you know its a nail. he could be a busy business guy, with a fleet of vans on the road doing courier work ? Where really writing a advert on a whim one morning he decided to get rid of the porsche giving little thought to it cause 20k is so little to him ?
[TW]Fox;17716519 said:
And you can tell this from a poorly written ad on the internet?
With another 10k on the asking price would it be a better bet? Or an ad with a word count close to that of the latest Tom Clancy novel?
You're buying a car, not selecting someone to draft a contract for you. Granted you don't want to buy a car owned by a dodo, but go and view it and judge him in the flesh rather than what you can read on a computer screen.
And you can tell this from a poorly written ad on the internet?
You can get a good idea, yes.
The better advert would certainly give you more confidence.
For more money than some people earn in a year. It's not a 2k runabout! The wrong 911 turbo has horrifying financial consequences!
If you went and viewed every single daft advert on the offchance it was a minter you'd spend your life wasting time driving hundreds of miles.
I discarded all adverts like this when I was buying mine. Maybe I missed a damn good car as a result but I bet I dodged a lot more bullets! I viewed any local ones irrespective of the advert and funnily enough the badly worded crappy adverts tended to be for crappy cars. The advert I eventually responded to was well written, had plenty of detail and when I met the chap suprise suprise he was a mid 40's well educated chap from whom I was absolutely thrilled to be buying a car.
It's not a hard and fast rule - there are exceptions to everything - but generally speaking its a safe bet that avoids you wasting time looking at junk from the bottom of the market.
You cant apply to the sort of logic you'd apply to buying cheap cars to buying really rather expensive ones!
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Fox is right as usual, BUT on this particular occasion i think its worth putting captain prejudice back in his box because it is cheap and its got a good chance of being decent.
You just need to ring him and ask a couple questions, 1 how long you had it and 2 what does this full history consist of, get the chassis number and ring Porsche to see whats been done.
Isnt that more sensible than dismissing him with "the man's a div he cant spell or service a car" ?
If this was a 3k mondeo then yea, go onto the next one, but there is no next 20k 996 turbo, so for that alone its worth a call if you ask me.
You just need to ring him and ask a couple questions, 1 how long you had it and 2 what does this full history consist of, get the chassis number and ring Porsche to see whats been done.
Isnt that more sensible than dismissing him with "the man's a div he cant spell or service a car" ?
If this was a 3k mondeo then yea, go onto the next one, but there is no next 20k 996 turbo, so for that alone its worth a call if you ask me.
[TW]Fox;17717833 said:
Yes you do but you know what the difference between a mint one and an average one of these is dont you?
Its Tyres, brakes rads suspension, thats it because the engine if it goes pop goes pop and thats that anyway.
Its initial straight after buying cost with these, the car with the most recent work done is the winner. Thats why i say its worth a look and a call to see whats been done.
It could be owned by a secret millionare who simply got a member of his staff to write the advert and is in reality the best 911 ever.
It could be owned by the Chairman of Porsche UK who was advertising it really quickly before going into a meeting about how awesome the car he'd had was.
It could be owned by Housey, but he was just on his way to Morrisons at the time he decided to write the ad.
It could be be an ultra rich businessman who just happens to fancy a cheap Transit.
Or... it could just be the sediment at the bottom of the 911 pond being sold by somebody who puts so little effort into things you wouldnt want his car.
If you can actually afford to run a 911 Turbo, you can afford to have no reason at all to take the gamble on a cheapy that 'might be all right'.
It could be owned by the Chairman of Porsche UK who was advertising it really quickly before going into a meeting about how awesome the car he'd had was.
It could be owned by Housey, but he was just on his way to Morrisons at the time he decided to write the ad.
It could be be an ultra rich businessman who just happens to fancy a cheap Transit.
Or... it could just be the sediment at the bottom of the 911 pond being sold by somebody who puts so little effort into things you wouldnt want his car.
If you can actually afford to run a 911 Turbo, you can afford to have no reason at all to take the gamble on a cheapy that 'might be all right'.
Brilliant, the point Mark is trying to make though is how can you tell it's a shed from the advert? Just because they can't spell or take decent photos.
Personally I can see both sides of the arguement, I'd probably filter out an advert like that if I was after such an expensive car, however without seeing it there is no way to tell how good the condition is.
Ideally you'd like to see every car but obviously couldn't. If it was close, and was what I was after I'd certainly have a look, but it would put me off driving the length of the country to check it out.
Im not explaining this very well am i.
Lets take example 1 a car cherished by mr clean who lavished nothing but zymol love and porsche opc on his car.
Its glowing the motor, what a car and its only done 54k miles and is rightly up for 30k.
Then we have example 2 this fella services his car too, but isnt quite as up together as mr clean, his cars done 110k and its up for 20k no zymol and a few swirls from the Bosnians.
But hold on lets have Peter Morgan to have an inspection on both.
Mr clean who scrimped on nothing on his car the low miles one in the next 5k miles is going to need brakes all round 2500 quid oops and 3 new rads 1700 quid and **** me a suspension refresh another 2500 quid. He did nothing wrong, he cherished that car, the bits just hadnt worn out yet.
Now onto car 2 Mr Morgan tells us as it goes hes had all that done in the last 18 months due to the higher miles, or maybe he aint but if he has that 20k munter aint looking too bad now is it.
And sod mr clean i can suffer mr ropey cos i was there to buy a car, not make a new best mate.
Moral here get an inspection, because its not miles that sepperate the good from the bad or quality of typing, its condition.
Lets take example 1 a car cherished by mr clean who lavished nothing but zymol love and porsche opc on his car.
Its glowing the motor, what a car and its only done 54k miles and is rightly up for 30k.
Then we have example 2 this fella services his car too, but isnt quite as up together as mr clean, his cars done 110k and its up for 20k no zymol and a few swirls from the Bosnians.
But hold on lets have Peter Morgan to have an inspection on both.
Mr clean who scrimped on nothing on his car the low miles one in the next 5k miles is going to need brakes all round 2500 quid oops and 3 new rads 1700 quid and **** me a suspension refresh another 2500 quid. He did nothing wrong, he cherished that car, the bits just hadnt worn out yet.
Now onto car 2 Mr Morgan tells us as it goes hes had all that done in the last 18 months due to the higher miles, or maybe he aint but if he has that 20k munter aint looking too bad now is it.
And sod mr clean i can suffer mr ropey cos i was there to buy a car, not make a new best mate.
Moral here get an inspection, because its not miles that sepperate the good from the bad or quality of typing, its condition.