anyone still on XP?

Echo · 4 Nov 2010 at 13:55

dirtydog said:
FWIW according to the Valve hardware survey, 26.5% are still using XP 32-bit. (0.75% using XP 64)

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

A quarter of the market is a significant amount of people who games developers would shun at their peril, I would suggest.

But on the flip side, 33.37% for Win 7 x64 (or ~45% for x86+x64) in just a single year is an amazing stat - these kind of trends usually take several years to pan out.

p.s. Unless your SSD is an ancient generation, you're shunning TRIM too

Sleepery · 4 Nov 2010 at 13:56

There's only one Zealot in this thread.

dirtydog · 4 Nov 2010 at 14:03

Delvis · 4 Nov 2010 at 15:04

H2F Scott said:
I won't switch to the Windows 7 until right clicking something in the taskbar brings the menu up directly under the mouse pointer, not above the taskbar.

...but yes I'm serious.

=/

It does...it brings it up above the mouse pointer, inline with the icon

Delvis · 4 Nov 2010 at 15:06

H2F Scott said:
Haha I was kinda joking. I've "switched" to 7 3 times and always come back to XP after 2-3 months. It's just a few niggles that annoy me in 7 that always brings me back to XP that I'm so used to.

And what I mean with the taskbar is being able to right click twice to close things really fast in XP, which you can't do in 7. I know it's trivial as hell but it annoys me.

Yeah..you right click, then click close....or better yet, hover over said icon, then click the 'x' button!!! :eek:

Delvis · 4 Nov 2010 at 15:09

Echo said:
But on the flip side, 33.37% for Win 7 x64 (or ~45% for x86+x64) in just a single year is an amazing stat - these kind of trends usually take several years to pan out.

Indeed, but M/S nor game developers are going to stop developing software/games to work on XP and Win 7...its just ridiculous...

And Vista just works with Windows 7 stuff...because well....its a lower end version of Windows 7, no matter how many times M/S say Windows 7 was 'built from the ground up'

....but thats a different issue

buchtis · 4 Nov 2010 at 15:10

Still on XP but the best version to have come out, XP x64 Bit.

Super fast, never crashes and everything works on it.

<3 it.

tibbsey · 4 Nov 2010 at 15:39

Win7 on main PC.
XP on laptop (Pentium M 2.13GHz, 2GB ram and 7800GTX Go, just about plays Titan Quest, so I'm happy

)

Echo · 4 Nov 2010 at 16:21

buchtis said:
Still on XP but the best version to have come out, XP x64 Bit.

Super fast, never crashes and everything works on it.

<3 it.

There's more drivers available for Linux

Delvis · 4 Nov 2010 at 16:24

Echo said:
There's more drivers available for Linux

Linux is better just due to the fact its highly customizable, and if something doesn't work, you can actually make a workaround.

The only problem is people cant be bothered to learn it

Myself included

uv · 4 Nov 2010 at 16:39

dirtydog said:
I haven't said XP is undeniably better, merely that I prefer it and find it is superior in many important ways.

What "many important ways" would they be?

Has no support for the latest DirtectX versions? Check!
Has inferior memory management? Check!
Has inferior security management? Check!
Has inferior user access management? Check!
Has inferior disk drive management? Check!
Has inferior network protocols and sharing management? Check!
Has inferior driver support? Check!

You can prefer whichever OS you like, but I actually can't think of a single thing that XP does in a more superior manner than Win7 :confused:

buchtis · 4 Nov 2010 at 16:44

Echo said:
There's more drivers available for Linux

Prove it.

I've had no problems whatsoever finding drivers for my hardware. A common misconception that apparently XP x64 is not supported by anything.

Feel free to try it and prove me wrong.

edscdk · 4 Nov 2010 at 16:47

uv said:
What "many important ways" would they be?

Has no support for the latest DirtectX versions? Check!
Has inferior memory management? Check!
Has inferior security management? Check!
Has inferior user access management? Check!
Has inferior disk drive management? Check!
Has inferior network protocols and sharing management? Check!
Has inferior driver support? Check!

You can prefer whichever OS you like, but I actually can't think of a single thing that XP does in a more superior manner than Win7

most of your points are only valid in a very small % of users,

buying a new PC - get W7 (assuming you don't have any legacy software)
Have a Vista PC - upgrade to W7
Got xp already? stick with it your machine will only run slower if you upgrade. (unless you happened to stick XP on a quad core 4gb pc, then maybe worth upgrading)

dirtydog · 4 Nov 2010 at 17:06

uv said:
What "many important ways" would they be?

Has no support for the latest DirtectX versions? Check!
Has inferior memory management? Check!
Has inferior security management? Check!
Has inferior user access management? Check!
Has inferior disk drive management? Check!
Has inferior network protocols and sharing management? Check!
Has inferior driver support? Check!

You can prefer whichever OS you like, but I actually can't think of a single thing that XP does in a more superior manner than Win7

Bored now, feel free to search my posts in the Windows forum, I have gone into detail before about why I prefer XP in there, in the past.

Suffice to say, many key features and usability issues which are worse or broken in '7' which are important to me.

thingemajib · 4 Nov 2010 at 17:18

i dual boot 7 and xp. Even though i pretty much never use XP, i like to have it there...

QlimaxUK · 4 Nov 2010 at 17:35

XP all the way

win7 is incompatable with my scanner and printer and certain software, i also don't like the new interface! this 'oversimplicity' will turn our world into an idiocracy!

EDIT: this is me using windown 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8r3tHUK6v4

builder22 · 4 Nov 2010 at 18:19

any thoughts on the improvement to gfx gained from using dx11 then ?

linktoinsanity · 4 Nov 2010 at 18:44

KNiVES said:
Windows 7 is much much faster than XP. This is simply down to it being the most modern and efficient OS designed for the latest hardware and vice versa. This is the most important bit.

The GUI for example uses the GPU, XP still relies on the CPU so it actually feels slower and cumbersome. W7 handles memory a lot differently too.

People shouldn't be forced to agree, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're making the right decision if they want the best performance. If you're still on XP, you're missing out I'm afraid. All you are going to get is criticism.

Wrong. XP dual boots with 7 (my everyday OS) and when I use it is is much faster at running the desktop then 7 is, however I have noticed that file copying is faster on Windows 7. If yours was slow did you have a bad cpu?

XP is faster in a lot of situations, and compatible with more older software including games, why do you think MS bothered with the Windows XP Mode? (Not for games, but for other software)

I do like Windows 7, but never liked the lack of speed of Vista. That OS was such a joke.

XP feels more professional to use, so in a work environment I think it will be around for a couple of years to come at least. At home though, you really should be on Windows 7 64 bit if you have hardware that can take full advantage of it.

Just for the record, 64 bit XP is just a waste of time.

buchtis · 4 Nov 2010 at 19:02

LinktoInsanity said:
Just for the record, 64 bit XP is just a waste of time.

As per usual OcUK forum standards, an opinion backed up with nothing.

Care to elaborate or am I asking too much?

snapdragon · 4 Nov 2010 at 19:06

I'm on XP on an ancient sempron powered lappy, have 7 installed as dual boot but buggered if I can find a compatible audio driver