Hes trying to tell you, like I am, that for what this pc is to be used for its just OTT, some of the specs in this thread are almost getting "high-end gaming"
£500 budgit for a new PC but I'm struggling
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Hes trying to tell you, like I am, that for what this pc is to be used for its just OTT, some of the specs in this thread are almost getting "high-end gaming"
theres plenty of "grunt" from the specs in this thread, I could bore the pants of you with reviews/benchmarks and comparisons with other chips/gpu's but its just not necessary
Well, higher end is what i'm looking for so that we have options in the future. BAring in mind that HD video editing is very likely then I don't want to have to upgrade in 6 months when he can't do it very well. Do you think these specs could handle that?
all the specs in this thread could handle it.
forgot the optical drive in my last spec, so heres it complete.
Your basketProduct Name Qty Price Line Total
HIS ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £105.74
(£89.99) £105.74
(£89.99)
AMD Athlon II X4 Quad Core 630 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £75.19
(£63.99) £75.19
(£63.99)
Gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H AMD 880G (Socket AM3) DDR3 microATX Motherboard £74.99
(£63.82) £74.99
(£63.82)
Coolermaster Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black (with 500w Elite Power PSU) £62.99
(£53.61) £62.99
(£53.61)
Patriot Viper 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C7 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS34G1600LLK) £58.74
(£49.99) £58.74
(£49.99)
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £42.29
(£35.99) £42.29
(£35.99)
LG GH22LS50 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter Lightscribe Drive - Retail £14.99
(£12.76) £14.99
(£12.76)
Sub Total : £370.15
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £10.50
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £66.61
Total : £447.26
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon-ii-x4-630.html
Your basketProduct Name Qty Price Line Total
HIS ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £105.74
(£89.99) £105.74
(£89.99)
AMD Athlon II X4 Quad Core 630 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £75.19
(£63.99) £75.19
(£63.99)
Gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H AMD 880G (Socket AM3) DDR3 microATX Motherboard £74.99
(£63.82) £74.99
(£63.82)
Coolermaster Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black (with 500w Elite Power PSU) £62.99
(£53.61) £62.99
(£53.61)
Patriot Viper 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C7 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS34G1600LLK) £58.74
(£49.99) £58.74
(£49.99)
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £42.29
(£35.99) £42.29
(£35.99)
LG GH22LS50 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter Lightscribe Drive - Retail £14.99
(£12.76) £14.99
(£12.76)
Sub Total : £370.15
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £10.50
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £66.61
Total : £447.26
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon-ii-x4-630.html
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+1 That works for me.
An extra £50 and you get an i5 build with the possibility of crossfiring 5770s in the future if your in laws are into metro 2033.
£508 total.
If you wanna drop it to under 500 then take the Patriot RAM on special offer instead of the Corsair and a F1 Samsung HDD instead of the F4 but I think these upgrades are worth the £8. That patriot ram just looks nasty to me lol.
An extra £50 and you get an i5 build with the possibility of crossfiring 5770s in the future if your in laws are into metro 2033.
£508 total.
If you wanna drop it to under 500 then take the Patriot RAM on special offer instead of the Corsair and a F1 Samsung HDD instead of the F4 but I think these upgrades are worth the £8. That patriot ram just looks nasty to me lol.
bad luck, but that doesn't support symetrical crossfire, it would run the second card at a reduced speed making crossfire pathetic.
and a 500gb harddrive is the same price.
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Thanks again for the advice.
For my own sanity I want to ask a couple of questions but they may be pretty simple for those who keep up to date with the technology regularaly.
Is the Athlon 2 not old technology? Whats the difference, in real terms, between this and a AMD Phenom 2?
Looking at the clock speed of both the Athlon and Phenom theres quite a difference but not mot much difference in price. Would it not be a worthwhile investment to go for the faster clock? Or does that involve more outlay in the motherboard and memory?
I've just done a quick google but the descriptions went well over my head!
For my own sanity I want to ask a couple of questions but they may be pretty simple for those who keep up to date with the technology regularaly.
Is the Athlon 2 not old technology? Whats the difference, in real terms, between this and a AMD Phenom 2?
Looking at the clock speed of both the Athlon and Phenom theres quite a difference but not mot much difference in price. Would it not be a worthwhile investment to go for the faster clock? Or does that involve more outlay in the motherboard and memory?
I've just done a quick google but the descriptions went well over my head!
what Phenom were you looking at? the 555BE?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/105?vs=120 - some of those graphs are lower is better.
The Phenoms do have a few differences, such as Cache memory on the chip, different architecture, and an unlocked multiplier making easy overclocking possible in the motherboard bios.
and the ram and motherboards in these specs allow good overclocking with plenty of "headroom"
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Hello again!
Well, the one I looked at for clock speed was the quad 970 Black Edition. I've had a look at that site (Very handy!) and that in comparison to the Athlon 2 it seems to win hands down. I apreciate that we may not make use of this however I'm sure that in the future we are likely to, especially for relativly large video editing projects. I'm not sure I fancy overclocking just yet as I cant say I'd have the time to test stability for him and he wouldn't have a clue how to do it.
So do you think its worth it in the long run? If not then I think its almost certain we'd go for the previous spec you did for us. He's very keen to ensure this is an investment and will be good for many years to come with the flexability to expand what he does on it.
Well, the one I looked at for clock speed was the quad 970 Black Edition. I've had a look at that site (Very handy!) and that in comparison to the Athlon 2 it seems to win hands down. I apreciate that we may not make use of this however I'm sure that in the future we are likely to, especially for relativly large video editing projects. I'm not sure I fancy overclocking just yet as I cant say I'd have the time to test stability for him and he wouldn't have a clue how to do it.
So do you think its worth it in the long run? If not then I think its almost certain we'd go for the previous spec you did for us. He's very keen to ensure this is an investment and will be good for many years to come with the flexability to expand what he does on it.
its not worth it for a 970BE cpu (only when comparing its price to a 965BE cpu does it look good value), when you talk about him doing video editing, do you mean simple holiday camcorder footage with a few swipes and title screens added?
As for PGA golf, its never ever going to stress a modern pc specced within this thread, even the newest first person shooters that are out on sale/or to be released will play smoothly.
by the time a program/game is released to even tax a Athlon II X4 630 cpu, the 970BE cpu will be years old anyway, so just sell off the Athlon, and pick up a suitable second hand Phenom CPU in the future.
As for PGA golf, its never ever going to stress a modern pc specced within this thread, even the newest first person shooters that are out on sale/or to be released will play smoothly.
by the time a program/game is released to even tax a Athlon II X4 630 cpu, the 970BE cpu will be years old anyway, so just sell off the Athlon, and pick up a suitable second hand Phenom CPU in the future.
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thats the only time a 970BE is worth it is what I meant, for your in-laws needs, its just absurd
I see. So should we later decide to up the processor, will the same motherboard and memory be suitable?
Maybe I should give him my PC and I get the new one
the motherboard and ram will be suitable, with a CPU such as the 970BE you will see something such as "140W" so just ensure the motherboard is able to cope with these higher power usage CPU'S.
luckily because im a smart arse, that particular Gigabyte board does, it also has a slightly cheaper brother with an almost identical name that only seems to be able to cope with CPU'S with a 125w rating.
the easiest way to tell is to look at the CPU support list of a particular motherboard and see if its compatible with the older 965BE 140w cpu (the 965be came in two types, 125w and an older 140w type) when I look at a few motherboards cpu supports list, a lot of times there is a N/A next to the older 140w model.
imagine in a few years time picking up a HEX (six) core cpu and putting it straight in, such as a 1055t or 1090t I bet they would be well cheap then and will offer a better boost in media encoding apps.
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only the cpu, the entire spec prices are well different.
AM3 has more future proofing too, and the ability to put a HEX core cpu in makes it a good choice.
It seem's we're argueing a lot today
the i5 is shown to outperform the 1055t anyway. As you kindly pointed out to me today, it even outperforms the i7 at stock speeds.
Also, if you get a h55 MB then their the same price builds. The only difference is they are probably not going to support multiple GPUs and won't support integrated graphics with the i5.
P55 boards are good but their not mandatory, just like it's not mandatory to spend £100 on a AM3 board even thou there are really good ones.