Hit a cyclist....
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I know your on the road a lot but surely you can take a more balanced view?
I don't quite think they are scum in all honesty. Quite a heavy word for the subject tbh.
Sorry but your both wrong, the highway code states you should never attempt an overtake (filtering past a stationary vehicle is still an overtake) near a junction, especially if you cannot see emerging traffic.
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A cyclist filtering at speed next to a junction is going to carry a significant amount of the responsibility for an accident like this. Hopefully this cyclist has had an effective reminder that he can't do what the hell he likes on the road and get away with it.
You are a starts with p and ends with k.
I stand corrected - however I doubt the motorist would have won at court on the matter (or in insurers eyes)
As all have said sounds like good sport on both parties. I have seen far worse and over far, far less!
OP - out of interest, he wasn't riding a fixie or other low braked bike was he?
Not sure what you mean - I don't know much about bikes!
Racing on the public highway? Seriously??
Should have got more tbh, inexcusable, especially as a professional driver.
Killed crossing the road on his bicycle? Why was he 'crossing' the road on a bike?
I know car drivers often pull out into bikes (motorised or not) as quite often we're looking for another car (the most common thing on the road) and smaller things just pass under our attention filter.
The examples you gave though are just fail. One count of dangerous driving and 2 counts of reckless cycling.
I was in kind of the same position last Friday except I was the cyclist and it was the car at complete fault, I was at a standstill waiting to go right into a side road, an old lady was waiting to come out off the side road, she went and just completely knocked me off running over my back wheel and making quite a mess. Thankfully I was fine, wearing my helmet, seems though she might have fobbed my off with a wrong number as I cannot get intouch with her to arrange for repair of my bike, still atleast I took her wingmirror clean off.
I had my lights on however as she was sideways on and raining I don't think I was visible enough, I have already bought a nice fluorescent jacket.
I had my lights on however as she was sideways on and raining I don't think I was visible enough, I have already bought a nice fluorescent jacket.
Well done on completely missing the point, which was that its not actually that great when cyclists get 'splattered' on the roads. It does in fact wreck peoples lives, whoever is at fault.
For the record though, the first story was about a TT, which is not a race in the sence you're thinking. There's no mass start, and you rarely even see another rider when you're competing. Thousands of people take part in them every week and they are completely legal.
....and yeah, I'm sure the reckless 10 year old deserved it tbh
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A bit harsh, but a lot of truth. I see cyclists and people on motorbikes do some really horrific things on a regular basis. Squeezing and weeving through lots of traffic never seems like a good idea to me and I am never surprised that so many are knocked off.
Some bikes have just one brake...that doesn't really work well and some have none for proper loons and they stop it by stopping pedalling.
Just wondering as with the right brakes you can stop a bike pretty quick as long as it's dry.
There was a thread on PH very recently started by another stupid cyclist that did much the same as this, and it someone posted a link to case law that puts the majority of the blame at the cyclist. I'll see if I can find it.
Quoted for truth.
I'm a cyclist who obeys the Highway Code (i.e. no jumping of red lights, etc.) and I've only ever been knocked off my bike once (in Cyprus, about fifteen years ago - no fault of mine).
I'd be in a similar position to the cyclist in the OP, to be honest - I was doing something risky and as far as I care, there is no such thing as a willing victim (even if the law states otherwise).
Mucho props to you both for being properly British about it and working it out without arguement, fisticuffs or lawyers.
This board should salute you both.
Glad you sorted it out in a decent way and that no one was hurt.
There was an incident reported in the local paper that turned out in a much worse way
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8623...ave_Hove_driver_fighting_for_his_life/?ref=mr
I had a similar experience when turning into a local close in which three small children sitting on a skateboard nearly went straight under the front of my car. They were so low down under the height of the cars parked on the corner I couldnt see them until they were near enough right in front of the car. Luckily unlike some nutters on the estate I was practically just rolling into the close and was able to stop. Shook me up something bad!
There was an incident reported in the local paper that turned out in a much worse way
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8623...ave_Hove_driver_fighting_for_his_life/?ref=mr
I had a similar experience when turning into a local close in which three small children sitting on a skateboard nearly went straight under the front of my car. They were so low down under the height of the cars parked on the corner I couldnt see them until they were near enough right in front of the car. Luckily unlike some nutters on the estate I was practically just rolling into the close and was able to stop. Shook me up something bad!
oh the irony coming from a taxi driver
ok you guys don't run red lights, but generally, and especially on a friday or saturday evening, drive like your knob is on fire and you need to find some water quick. And there just happens to be a bucket of water hanging off the back of my car so you'll drive as close as you can to try and douse it.
I also can't stand cyclists that do as they please, however for them it's likely that it'll end pretty unpleasantly one day when they get it wrong
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Well done on completely missing the point, which was that its not actually that great when cyclists get 'splattered' on the roads. It does in fact wreck peoples lives, whoever is at fault.
For the record though, the first story was about a TT, which is not a race in the sence you're thinking. There's no mass start, and you rarely even see another rider when you're competing. Thousands of people take part in them every week and they are completely legal.
....and yeah, I'm sure the reckless 10 year old deserved it tbh
I can't help but get annoyed at the inner city cyclist who rides fixed gear and jump lights with no helmet on but it's dangerous out there. In the last few months I know of 3 deaths of cyclists.
The most recent being
http://road.cc/content/news/25481-deadly-weekend-roads-british-cyclists
I serve the police a lot in the bike shop I work in and his mate comes in and talks quite regularly. Head on collision with a car ain't gonna be nice, the paramedic signed off sick for two days it was so bad
Including the driver of the car, at fault or not do you think they get up the next morning and shrug it off?
You seem to have the attitude that all accidents involving cyclists are a car drivers fault, they aren't and they ruin the lives of the driver as much as anybody else.
Looked like a pretty normal bike with "V" brakes but it did have microscopically thin "slick" tyres on it. In the wet, which it was, i can't see it having much stopping power
i have only back brake.. and i can honestly tell if at the speed he was doing none of the brakes would have helped.. i hit a car in the back and i couldn't stop for the love of god tried to avoid it everyway possible and still hit that damn MPV.. i guess less weight/thin tires change the breaking distance a lot.. also i hit it going UP the hill... so think about it
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Where on earth do you get that idea? In this instance I'd say it was the cyclists fault, hence my comment applauding the OP for the way he handled it. In the bikers forum you'll see that I have often said most near misses I experience are due to other bikers taking a racing line on the road.
I fully acknowledge there are idiots using all forms of transport. My point here was directly to the **** that posted he found it good that cyclists got splatter on the road, which is bang out of order, and I don't see how you could argue otherwise.