Because we live in a time where certain people believe that everyone should have the same opportunities.
Do you recognise these student rioters?
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Because we live in a time where certain people believe that everyone should have the same opportunities.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pic...-recognise-these-student-rioters.html?image=3
Is that not a 2k chair he is about to throw out the window?
Is that not a 2k chair he is about to throw out the window?
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But it should be affordable too surely ?
That it is, and also the biggest down fall of democracy that is a popularity contest. Somethings are just to hard for the population to grasp, as it is just too in depth and would take ages to teach us what we need, to make an educated opinion on.
could any of us sit down and not be blown away and full in a nervous wreck at the scope and size of public funding and expenditure and what needs to go where.
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I agree entirely.
It would be a nightmare even when the economy is in good shape let alone the current state of the economy.
It would be a nightmare even when the economy is in good shape let alone the current state of the economy.
Only if you're rich it seems.
Lol @ these guys in 'Titanic' pose.. I hope he doesn't turn out be a fellow overclocker
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Ugh, just look at his smug face. I wouldn't be able to stop myself hitting him so hard with that baton.
erm no
If someone is raped, the police will still investigate even if the victim decides to withdraw the allegations.
If you break something belonging to someone and offer to compensate them and they're happy then there isn't anything for the police to investigate.
DUCY....
Actually, they go 'wading in with sticks' they potentially face a personal assault charge and being sacked. They do nothing the force gets slammed, not the individuals.
Not to mention they were hideously out numbered.
Someone smacks me as being a little bit obsessed.
To the people going on about worthless or pointless courses, do we have any figures on the percentage in overall education?
I seem to hear it getting banded about a lot, with very little definition..
To the people going on about worthless or pointless courses, do we have any figures on the percentage in overall education?
I seem to hear it getting banded about a lot, with very little definition..
I'll freely admit to not reading the thread, because I'm drunk, but this is ridiculous. People shouldn't be granted the same opportunities, at least in this case, because people aren't equal - I don't care what Nitsche said. Labour instigated the opportunity for universities to widen their application on the basis of courses of study that embarrass the higher education system, and in return they guaranteed higher monetary refunds. All prejudice aside, university education should be restricted to the intellectual elite - it should be earned, not assumed, which makes it ironic that those purporting the old system are criticised most heavily on the grounds that they are attempting to restrict advanced education to those who can afford it by those who swing their votes behind a system that places a greater financial burden on the few who believe it to be a worthwhile cost. While I agree that advanced education should be free insofar as family wealth is concerned, I don't think it should be so available to those who, by their very participation, devalue the achievements attained by those who prove themselves worthy.
There's a time and a place for both. If only they'd get it right.
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I'm quite happy for everyone to have better and more education, but this should mostly be instigated by pushing the limits and amounts being learned in the current schools, from 5-16. School is getting easier, more and more people, especially inteligent people, are wasting most of their time from 5-16 in school, sitting around waiting on more work. Education at EVERY level should get more difficult, we are essentially more clever, more able to more quickly pick up new ways of thinking IF we are pushed because a kid 100 years ago didn't grow up with a tv, and finds the concept harder to grasp, 100 years later a 3 yr old knows what a TV is and the concept is far more quickly absorbed.
We're going backwards though, as you said University, extra education should be limited to those that would benefit. Dumbing down university so more people can enter into it, also dumbs down the level of learning and the level now being achieved when you leave uni. As with earlier education university course should be getting harder, being taught harder, faster, more insensely, to smarter students who are doing harder a-levels and gsce's and everything below.
To get the education someone really deserves in this day and age, what should have been the continuing level of difficulty increasing in the past 100 years, you can really now only achieve with post grad education and even then, meh, masters aren't "that" deep purely due to time constraints.
Uni's and schools are an utter joke and the biggest problem is Labour trying to promote this idea that EVERYONE, even the dustbin men, should have an advanced level degree.
Unfortunately Labour are trying to train a nation of people to thinking they deserve better work and jobs, while at the same time through economic mismanagement of the country losing the "better" jobs, and finding these same people unwilling to clean streets and do what they now deem to be jobs beneath them.
ANy student who went to complain to the Tories, for trying to mop up the mess made by Labour, honestly isn't inteligent enough to be in uni.
Unfortunately these same morons are the guys who will go and vote Labour next time, who will instantly erase all the current good work the government are doing and again remortgage all these students future for some free education right now.
People just don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of a future. If the students pay 3k a year, and the government borrows the other 6k off China, in 50 years, you'd have paid 4k a year after paying it off, and the government will need to regain another 10k a year to pay back China, because its at a worse interest rate and is tacked onto a hugely worse debt.
You pay for it each way, this way is upfront, the people getting the education pay for it themselves, eventually, and they pay less. The Labour way, is to pay twice as much, force everyone, including those who didn't go to uni to pay, and push the country deeper into debt which will hurt everyones taxes for the rest of their lives.
Ok, I have too much rage to write anything sensible, so Il just say I hope they implement work camps in UK and get rid of worthless degrees.
The whole system is pointless, if you earn under a certain amount, you don't need to pay the loan back, so the tax payer takes the brunt of thousands of worthless, dead-end degrees because they are now stuck in a Tesco shelf stacking job... So what are those nupties are complaining about? They will never have to repay anything...
The whole system is pointless, if you earn under a certain amount, you don't need to pay the loan back, so the tax payer takes the brunt of thousands of worthless, dead-end degrees because they are now stuck in a Tesco shelf stacking job... So what are those nupties are complaining about? They will never have to repay anything...
it would be unpopular for the thickos but i cant see how people could argue against it. there would be certainly no class divide argument like there is now and unlike the current way it would actually help us out in the future when our countries brightest are in the best jobs .
lol the photographers including the telegraphs where egging them on to do it. looked quite disgusting on the news.
whats a worthless degree ? thesedays there are so few jobs that you need any degree to get any sort of non crap one...
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Ever since the big London protest, May day or G6 or something last year I'm (even more so) massively cynical about 'surprisingly' well-timed photo shots - I was right by where the RBS branch window got smashed in and the thing that stood out was there was one guy throwing something at the window and literally 20 pro-photographers in a semi-circle around him and everyone else behind.
Makes you wonder certainly whether there was some form of 'incentive' going on or at the very least provocation/suggestion from the watching press vultures.
This one - just..lol at the surrounding photographers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...089797/G20-Protests-turn-violent.html?image=9
Makes you wonder certainly whether there was some form of 'incentive' going on or at the very least provocation/suggestion from the watching press vultures.
This one - just..lol at the surrounding photographers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...089797/G20-Protests-turn-violent.html?image=9
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