COD Black Ops looks pretty good on PC

God I wish theatre mode worked so I could actually make a decent movie. I was thinking of maybe not just including clips of myself but other people's too? Prehaps from here? You can check my sig for the sort of thing I mean, I would edit it properly, believe it or not I'm actually very good with sony vegas and after effects, I just couldn't be bothered with that mini clip.

Thoughts?
 
overclick said:
I personally have no problem with the principle of subscription based gameplay. I played wow for 5 years and considering the time i played it was incredibly good value for money.

Publishers (notoriously Activision) are a business, their sole aim is to make as much profit as possible (Kotick or whatever his name is though seems to be incredibly arrogant and should probably shut up!). If they thought they could charge us £8 quid a month and make more money than currently they would in a heart beat. The problem they have in implementing this is that it is not the current standard FPS model. We as gamers are used to buying a FPS game for say 40 quid and being able to play it online as much as we feel with no extra charge.

I think it will be a very long progress to change the model, i think at best they can phase things in slowly (they have started with mappacks). If it becomes subscription based i think they would loose more buyers than they would ever make up on monthly subs. I doubt monetisation through microtransactions would go down well either. Imagine instead of using 'COD points' to buy a new gun scope or facepaint you use actual money. The synic in me things 'COD points' is purly a means to get the masses subconsciously used to the concept of paying for these items so that it will be slightly less of a hurdle when they introduce using real money for this.
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Wow isnt a FPS it's a full on mmo updated world with that's got live support 24/7 and mmo has a lot more depth then a FPS i've been playing fps since Doom 1 and i'm telling you now black ops isn't worth a monthly fee not to mention 99% of the servers run are setup and paid for by joe bloggs, The fact they charge for map packs is stupid as they bundle so few maps with the game anyway and charge £40 UT never charged for a map pack and they gave us more maps to begin with.

This might be the norm for consoles with xbox live etc but PCs it is not and i'm telling you now if they charged to monthly fee you would see a mass of hacked clients and pirate servers pop up - The game lacks depth to warrant a monthly fee.
 
Regarding the "lag", low performance, general choppiness, etc.

This is ALL down to poor utilisation of the rendering thread(s) on the CPU that are feeding the GPU - meaning your GPU is sitting idle waiting on the CPU 70% of the time. Probably because the game is busy doing something else.

This means that when a lot is going on the GPU isn't been fed sufficently and the game goes to hell... its not actually network lag, etc. even tho it feels like it.

There is no client side fix - tweaking cvars, driver options, etc. etc. might marginally mask it a bit but nothing will completely fix it til the devs get off their arses.


I'm a little worried about this as the symptoms are identical to a nasty, but fortunatly very rare, bug with COD4 - thought to be related to IRQ sharing/system bus saturation somewhere - it only affected a small number of PCs but required major hardware and software changes to fix - i.e. new motherboard and GPU or a new PC would usually sort it out, but its unfixable if your hardware/software configuration happens to be affected by it. If this bug is now affecting a large number of the player base then essentially the game is screwed because the only fix would be the slim chance that a new PC or major changes to your PC resulted in a configuration that wasn't affected - given the large number complaining about it thats a slim chance... the other option being a major rewrite of the game by treyarch.
 
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Rroff said:
Regarding the "lag", low performance, general choppiness, etc.

This is ALL down to poor utilisation of the rendering thread(s) on the CPU that are feeding the GPU - meaning your GPU is sitting idle waiting on the CPU 70% of the time. Probably because the game is busy doing something else.

This means that when a lot is going on the GPU isn't been fed sufficently and the game goes to hell... its not actually network lag, etc. even tho it feels like it.
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How do you know that?
 
wow is about 9 quid a month, a bit cheaper if you buy a few months at a time.

Also I'm worried people only read the 1st line of my post, the next 2 paragraphs highlighted the exact issues posters have come back with, i did not say anything about wow maintaining servers which is very valid point. While in principle i'm fine with subscription fees I do think it will be an incredibly hard sell! However I personally hate the idea of microtransactions where for example if you pay to buy weapons your ability becomes more about your paycheck than your inate ability.
 
Rroff said:
Regarding the "lag", low performance, general choppiness, etc.

This is ALL down to poor utilisation of the rendering thread(s) on the CPU that are feeding the GPU - meaning your GPU is sitting idle waiting on the CPU 70% of the time. Probably because the game is busy doing something else.

This means that when a lot is going on the GPU isn't been fed sufficently and the game goes to hell... its not actually network lag, etc. even tho it feels like it.

There is no client side fix - tweaking cvars, driver options, etc. etc. might marginally mask it a bit but nothing will completely fix it til the devs get off their arses.


I'm a little worried about this as the symptoms are identical to a nasty, but fortunatly very rare, bug with COD4 - thought to be related to IRQ sharing/system bus saturation somewhere - it only affected a small number of PCs but required major hardware and software changes to fix - i.e. new motherboard and GPU or a new PC would usually sort it out, but its unfixable if your hardware/software configuration happens to be affected by it. If this bug is now affecting a large number of the player base then essentially the game is screwed because the only fix would be the slim chance that a new PC or major changes to your PC resulted in a configuration that wasn't affected - given the large number complaining about it thats a slim chance... the other option being a major rewrite of the game by treyarch.
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Source?
 
Rroff said:
Regarding the "lag", low performance, general choppiness, etc.

This is ALL down to poor utilisation of the rendering thread(s) on the CPU that are feeding the GPU - meaning your GPU is sitting idle waiting on the CPU 70% of the time. Probably because the game is busy doing something else.

This means that when a lot is going on the GPU isn't been fed sufficently and the game goes to hell... its not actually network lag, etc. even tho it feels like it.

There is no client side fix - tweaking cvars, driver options, etc. etc. might marginally mask it a bit but nothing will completely fix it til the devs get off their arses.


I'm a little worried about this as the symptoms are identical to a nasty, but fortunatly very rare, bug with COD4 - thought to be related to IRQ sharing/system bus saturation somewhere - it only affected a small number of PCs but required major hardware and software changes to fix - i.e. new motherboard and GPU or a new PC would usually sort it out, but its unfixable if your hardware/software configuration happens to be affected by it. If this bug is now affecting a large number of the player base then essentially the game is screwed because the only fix would be the slim chance that a new PC or major changes to your PC resulted in a configuration that wasn't affected - given the large number complaining about it thats a slim chance... the other option being a major rewrite of the game by treyarch.
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How have Treyarch introduced all these issues when COD4/WaW/MW2 ran so well?! (in fact COD4/WaW did have a minor occasional stutter but that is down to punkbuster and is insignifcant versus the problems in Black Ops)

I just had a game on World at War to remind myself how smooth it is. Also the server browser! I just timed it, it took literally FIVE SECONDS to refresh nearly 1200 servers. Black Ops would take more like a minute to do that. And it would be unresponsive to your inputs until it had finished.
 
Question, how do you think my laptop will manage in terms of running this game at a reasonable speed while still looking half decent?

I7 820
6 gig ram
ATI 4670 1gb
Windows 7

I really want to download off steam but im worried it will be a pointless purchase... Would medal of honor be a better option?
 
chloe138 said:
Question, how do you think my laptop will manage in terms of running this game at a reasonable speed while still looking half decent?

I7 820
6 gig ram
ATI 4670 1gb
Windows 7

I really want to download off steam but im worried it will be a pointless purchase... Would medal of honor be a better option?
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Impossible to say, spec means nothing to Black Ops :p.
 
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