Pulled...for being young in a nice car?

B&W · 14 Nov 2010 at 21:32

[TW]Fox;17790264 said:
Because it's often in your interest?

Then the officer is at fault if he wants you to be extra nice to him just to avoid getting a fine/points.

Being polite and courteous is one thing, being extra nice just so you get let off easily is obviously wrong but sometimes it must be done..

B&W · 14 Nov 2010 at 21:33

iaind said:
If they were bullies, they would be complained about and they would lose their job.

Maybe it just seems like bullying if you're adamant you're in the right

Nobody suggested being "extra nice", just a bit of courtesy

When you send a complaint it's firstly dealt with by a police officer, so guess where there sympathies lie.

B&W · 14 Nov 2010 at 21:34

Robbie G said:
I've only been pulled over once, for speeding in a Nissan Micra! in my first year at university. I must say, 'Yes sir, no sir' was pretty much my first reaction, as I thought that it was the best way to get him to treat me at least fairly. I got let off (56 in a 40...it was 4am, and I was in a hurry as I thought I'd lost my passport and had a train to catch). He was very friendly and reasonable. Maybe he let me off because he didn't have any proper evidence, but still.

Next time I get pulled over, I plan to behave the same way. These videos of wannabe 'thugs' giving it the big man to a policeman, make me cringe. However I still wouldn't suggest that everyone that's had a bad experience with the police, is necessarily at fault themselves.

Good on you and the officer, he sounds like a good person.

Sometimes though when you are 100% legal and the police just try and get anything on you then sooner or later you will loose your rag.

Joshy · 14 Nov 2010 at 21:46

ScoobyDoo69 said:
As a side point, Joshy.. do your parents get pulled over often?

I wouldn't say often, but my dad gets a tug once in a while

.

iaind · 14 Nov 2010 at 21:47

Joshy said:
I wouldn't say often, but my dad gets a tug once in a while .

TMI

Burnsy2023 · 14 Nov 2010 at 21:59

B&W said:
Then the officer is at fault if he wants you to be extra nice to him just to avoid getting a fine/points.

Being polite and courteous is one thing, being extra nice just so you get let off easily is obviously wrong but sometimes it must be done..

It's not about being nice, it's about taking on board what we are saying to you. If I see someone driving on their mobile, who I then pull over, they are much more likely to get off with a warning if they seem to me to have learnt their lesson and ultimately stop doing it. If they are obstructive and and refuse to listen, they'll get a FPN or a summons. The choice doesn't lie on how nice they are, it lies on whether I think their behaviour will change in future.

Joshy · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:00

[TW]Fox;17790037 said:
Perhaps you guys should educate me?

How does a completely law abiding citizen have so much contact with the police that they are able to begin to form a deep rooted hatred for them?

If you grow up in a scummy area you are going to be in contact with the police, even as a "completely law abiding citizen".

Sorry Fox, but this is just something you're never going to get. Unless you've seen and witnessed certain things you're going to think that everyone who plays the race/class/age card deserved the hassle they recieved from the Police.

Joshy · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:01

iaind said:
TMI

Eh?

Burnsy2023 · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:02

Joshy said:
If you grow up in a scummy area you are going to be in contact with the police, even as a "completely law abiding citizen".

I grew up in a crappy area and I didn't have this contact. You are making generalisations from a very narrow set of experiences.

Kenai · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:03

Joshy said:
Eh?

Too Much Information.

He was insinuating sexual undertones to your comment in a humourous manner.

Joshy · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:08

Burnsy2023 said:
I grew up in a crappy area and I didn't have this contact. You are making generalisations from a very narrow set of experiences.

I can't help but think that your idea of "crappy" differs somewhat to my idea of "crappy".

[TW]Fox · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:09

What exactly happens in your crappy area that gives you so much negative police contact despite minding your own business and going about your life in a lawful way?

Still loving the idea that Plymouth is some sort of suburban utopia though

shauncr91 · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:18

In retrospect I do think the area we were driving in had much to do with it. It was a rather rough part of Sheffield that we unfortunately have to drive through to get to the rest of civilisation

The only thing that annoyed me about the whole thing was just the opening sentence of the copper and her tone, insinuating that we were dodgy before even asking us. Maybe just me being picky but I could think of a variety of better ways to have gone about it. Needless to say though just taking it on the chin and being polite, explaining what we were doing and all was over quickly enough.

Joshy · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:22

[TW]Fox;17790720 said:
What exactly happens in your crappy area that gives you so much negative police contact despite minding your own business and going about your life in a lawful way?

I've been stopped on street on a few occassions, yes, while minding my own business. Now, I can just about handle being stopped, I'm a young, I'm male, I'm of colour and I'm usually rocking a shaven head. Whilst I don't think I look like I scream gang member, I can see where the police are coming from - We have a problem with stabbings in the local area, better safe than sorry and all that jazz.

Now, Treat them with respect, they'll treat you with some respect and they'll let you be on your way sooner or later. Erm, No.

Without an expection I've been treated like absoulte dirt throughout the entire process time in, time out. From being stopped, to being searched, to being condsended to, to being eventually be let on my way. Guilty until proven innocent, every single time. When this happens maybe once every 3-6 months for the past couple of years you start to get the hump after a while.

DM · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:22

[TW]Fox;17790720 said:
What exactly happens in your crappy area that gives you so much negative police contact despite minding your own business and going about your life in a lawful way?

Still loving the idea that Plymouth is some sort of suburban utopia though

Well lets get in some sort of context then, the worst part of where you are from is 2% as bad as where i come from. This is one of those rare occasions where you wont understand it if you havent lived it Fox mate.

[TW]Fox · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:23

Where do you come from?

B&W · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:24

Joshy said:
I've been stopped on street on a few occassions, yes, while minding my own business. Now, I can just about handle being stopped, I'm a young, I'm male, I'm of colour and I'm usually rocking a shaven head. Whilst I don't think I look like I scream gang member, I can see where the police are coming from - We have a problem with stabbings in the local area, better safe than sorry and all that jazz.

Now, Treat them with respect, they'll treat you with some respect and they'll let you be on your way sooner or later. Erm, No.

Without an expection I've been treated like absoulte dirt throughout the entire process time in, time out. From being stopped, to being searched, to being condsended to, to being eventually be let on my way. Guilty until proven innocent, every single time. When this happens maybe once every 3-6 months for the past couple of years you start to get the hump after a while.

Well said, it comes to a point where you just have enough and loose respect for all of them.

Joshy · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:25

[TW]Fox;17790820 said:
Where do you come from?

An area so grim even I lock my doors when I drive through it

.

iaind · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:26

shauncr91 said:
In retrospect I do think the area we were driving in had much to do with it. It was a rather rough part of Sheffield that we unfortunately have to drive through to get to the rest of civilisation

The only thing that annoyed me about the whole thing was just the opening sentence of the copper and her tone, insinuating that we were dodgy before even asking us. Maybe just me being picky but I could think of a variety of better ways to have gone about it. Needless to say though just taking it on the chin and being polite, explaining what we were doing and all was over quickly enough.

What did she say?

iaind · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:27

Joshy said:
I've been stopped on street on a few occassions, yes, while minding my own business. Now, I can just about handle being stopped, I'm a young, I'm male, I'm of colour and I'm usually rocking a shaven head. Whilst I don't think I look like I scream gang member, I can see where the police are coming from - We have a problem with stabbings in the local area, better safe than sorry and all that jazz.

Now, Treat them with respect, they'll treat you with some respect and they'll let you be on your way sooner or later. Erm, No.

Without an expection I've been treated like absoulte dirt throughout the entire process time in, time out. From being stopped, to being searched, to being condsended to, to being eventually be let on my way. Guilty until proven innocent, every single time. When this happens maybe once every 3-6 months for the past couple of years you start to get the hump after a while.

When you say you were treated like dirt - could you elaborate? What was said, how did you deal with it?