Student protest today - spec me a sign

Biohazard said:
No, you are an idiot at times.

It isn't a personal attack, its describing reality? :confused:

I've seen your trolling all over the place, you aim to exacerbate everyone.

It's pathetic, and your arguments are generally shallow and one dimentional.

Maybe two on a good day.
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Trolling? I don't troll. Joke yes, but troll, no. Sorry if my little girl joke got you riled, I thought it was obvious it was a joke. If you took it seriously, you need to step a step back and stop injecting your principles into everything whenever you get a chance.
 
Captain_Slick said:
And yet Lysander isn't nearly as annoying as you Biohazard... Hmm?
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It's because you don't like what I have to say that you find me annoying.

It's no different to the left/right divide in SC.

I get it all the time.

Think I give a crap? That's why I enjoy coming here, to set a bunch of morons straight.

I've spent years telling people what they don't like to hear. More often the truth showing their arguments up to be hollow.
 
What you should realize is that nobody has any obligation to argue with somebody else - but a healthy debate between intellectuals can be extremely productive. If you're not an idiot then prove it, maybe people will be more willing to take you seriously then.
 
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Superewza said:
Like hitting a peaceful protester on the head with a baton and refusing them first aid? Or how about kettling? Especially when there are under 16s trapped - that's simply illegal.
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Is it now... care to state where there is an age limit for riot control and lets not kid ourselves into thinking this turned out to be anything but a riot.... Peacful protest my arse.
 
Superewza said:
What you should realize is that nobody has any obligation to argue with somebody else - but a health debate between intellectuals can be extremely productive. If you're not an idiot then prove it, maybe people will be more willing to take you seriously then.
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People should tell that to folks who smash things up as a form of protest too. Its a good message.
 
Lysander said:
Trolling? I don't troll. Joke yes, but troll, no. Sorry if my little girl joke got you riled, I thought it was obvious it was a joke.
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Your overall tone did not make that a joke to me.

If I missed the obvious I apologise, but I don't think I did.

Given the general mens club jovial persuit of bashing anything relating to students, it seems par for the course under an antagonistic tone.

Lysander said:
If you took it seriously, you need to step a step back and stop injecting your principles into everything whenever you get a chance.
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If I took it seriously its because of your history of posting and personality.

I don't need to step back from anything, I'm sat on a chair.
 
Captain_Slick said:
No, it's because your arguments are invalid and I don't care.
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Well instead of going

'omg isn't he so annoying'

argue points back or your argument just doesn't exist.

I don't even know what you've got to argue about, I've only put across some very limited points to RDM.

You dissagree that they find it socially unfair?

Well, thats your misjudgement isn't it?
 
Superewza said:
If - exactly. Only those who are rich will be able to afford to get one.

No, it's not 'fair', in any sense of the word. Education is a right, and it should be free - never mind £3000/year or even £1000/year. You do realize that in most places in Europe you shouldn't expect to pay over €300 per semester? This is just plain ridiculous, and you're defending it? Get some perspective man!
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How do you work that one out. You do not have to pay for your education at the point of access, you are a student, you have no money.

You don't have to pay until you earn over £21k per annum and then you will only be paying 9% of your salary over that amount. If you are from a deprived background the likelihood that you will be eligible for Grants, Scholarships and Bursaries is increased due to the terms that Universities charging over £6k per annum in tuition have to comply with.

So, in reality, if you are indeed poor, you will receive you education free at point of access, and increased eligibility for non-repayable Grants and Bursaries, you will have the same opportunity as anyone else and you will only repay any loans you do have after you are earning enough to repay them at a taper interest rate and after 30 years if you have not repaid the loan it is wiped out.

Think yourself lucky that you do not live in the United States, then you would have something to complain about.

The bottom line here is this, if the fees do not increase then Universities will not be able to afford to provide the full range of degrees and available student places will decrease significantly. The smaller universities will close and in all likelihood only the Russell Group will remain.

Then you will have the situation where only the Rich will be able to gain a university education, because the universities would be forced to scrap student places and will allocate those remaining to those who can afford to pay over those who cannot.
 
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