Who has hung their keys up for the winter?

25Kg bag of sand is going in my boot tonight, get some weight over the back axle.

Worked last year :)

Although I cycled into work today. Not the nicest of experiences...
 
If it starts snowing up in the north west I will be tempted to leave the car at home. Not because of my inability to drive (although >200bhp through rwd + 255mm tyres with no TC can be a handful) but because the thought of some numpty sliding into me and writing the car off is not something I want to happen.
 
300+bhp RWD RX7 and I still drive it in the snow. I do want to get some smaller alloys and winter tyres sorted though.

It's all about being careful. If you refuse to drive in snow you'll never learn how should you need to.
 
Why would I want to do that? Best Nürburgring trip I ever had was in cold wintery conditions. The track itself was clear but damp and very slippery at points, but some of the roads nearby were a bit more interesting!






 
It's the British way. We cannot just get on with something, we have to have mass hysteria and over dramatisation of everything.

Just LOOK at the 70 page 'ITS SNOWING' thread in GD for further illustration.
 
To be fair, it's mainly the media that causes this. I think most people just get on with it, as usual the silent majority is ignored in favour of the winey, ****ish minority.
 
godinman said:
To be fair, it's mainly the media that causes this. I think most people just get on with it, as usual the silent majority is ignored in favour of the winey, ****ish minority.
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Well, it would be nice if the council bothered to grit the roads once in a while, and if numpties didn't try to drive as they would normally, but otherwise yes, I agree that there is a lot of hysteria.
 
can I voice my utter disdain for people who shove their fog lights on when it snows (and rains for the that matter)

bell-ends

that is all
 
shine said:
Fill up an old sock with rice and place it in the passenger foot well overnight. In the morning put the sock inside - somewhere warm. Repeat until all the moisture inside has been absorbed by the rice. No more frozen interior!
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Does this really work? I'm having an utter nightmare lately with my windscreen being frozen on the inside, I'm up for work at 4am so having to scrape the inside of the window because I'm so inpatient for the heaters to do it sucks! :( It's horrible scraping the inside of the windows having cold slush flicking everywhere in the car. :(
 
Will Gill said:
can I voice my utter disdain for people who shove their fog lights on when it snows (and rains for the that matter)

bell-ends

that is all
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Echoed, saw three clowns on my relatively short trip into work today, all doing this.

Even though it was neither snowing, or foggy....
 
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Does this really work? I'm having an utter nightmare lately with my windscreen being frozen on the inside, I'm up for work at 4am so having to scrape the inside of the window because I'm so inpatient for the heaters to do it sucks! :( It's horrible scraping the inside of the windows having cold slush flicking everywhere in the car. :(
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A couple of kettles full of water sorts it. Start with cool, then warm and it should melt the frost off the inside too. Or, lightly spray the inside with non-aerosol deicer ten minutes before you leave and clean up with a microfibre cloth before you drive away. Water works best though, get the screen warm and you're laughing.
 
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Does this really work? I'm having an utter nightmare lately with my windscreen being frozen on the inside, I'm up for work at 4am so having to scrape the inside of the window because I'm so inpatient for the heaters to do it sucks! :( It's horrible scraping the inside of the windows having cold slush flicking everywhere in the car. :(
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Yes it does - but it'll take time depending on how much moisture there is inside your car.
 
Had to go out at lunchtime, being male I decided to find the potentially most dangerous route into the village centre, suffice to say a Picasso is dreadful in the snow and I ended up having to reverse down about a mile of hilly road using the handbrake to slow my descent (forgot how rubbish ABS was in the snow), next time I'll try a high speed run up, reckon I can get to the top!
 
brake with gears, never touch the brakes they just serve to crash assist, driving round the alps the mad frenchies never ever brake, I have no clue how on earth they corner at the speeds they do, I tried a few times with decent enough snow tyres and always had to use the kerb/wall/pedestrian to bounce me back on course :p
 
Don't use engine braking in the snow, use the brake pedal hard enough that you're almost at the point where the ABS wants to cut in.

If you do use engine braking you can properly break what little traction you have and it's hard to get it back (unless your car has MSR). If you do properly break traction just press the clutch and control should return.
 
tbh id rather stick with engine braking.

if there is such low friction that the engine stalls due to engine braking then the brakes still wont help you either
 
That's not the issue at all. The quantity of engine braking is something you have very little control over (pretty much just choice of gear), it can break traction and there is nothing thothing the ABS can do about that.

If you use the brakes not only do you have ultimate control over the amount of braking, but if you have it, the ABS can stop the brakes from breaking traction.

It's for these reasons that MSR was developed, but you'll only find it on some cars with a fly-by wire throttle. Without this; engine braking on snow is not safe.
 
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