Snow and Retardedly slow driving (doing my head in)

Felix Da Housecat said:
OP: Look at it this way if they are going slow they are not going to crash into you when you are giving way at a junction or roundabout.

The amount of cars I've seen in my village coming up to junctions and skidding when they are already at walking pace is stupid.

Be safe, not sorry.
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this is true, however im pretty sure a lot of the time people who have analysed the weather i saw to be 30mph might also not realise that planting there foot firmly on the brake to slow down in conditions similar to what you must be experiencing is a bad idea.

But i see what you're saying for sure.
 
Eliot said:
ok thats probably right, maybe towards the kerb they may have been a little, but the roads were dry and heavily gritted, im pretty sure that you're evalution would be similar and that you would agree 50 was reasonable had you seen it though
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Possibly, possibly not. The roads around here were dry and gritted when someone pulled out on me and the ABS kicked in much easier than normal.

The whole point is it's about the unknown, it's not worth the risk. As others have said, I'd rather see over cautiousness than overeagerness in these conditions.

gillywibble said:
I thought the bitching was supposed to have stopped in Motors?

Anyway, I agree with the OP. Some real 'over cautious' drivers at the moment. Gets on my wick.
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There's an RTM button if you have an issue with any posts.

As I said, better safe than sorry - keep your distance, turn your heater up and take a deep breath
 
Eliot said:
Ok well that all makes sense i suppose. But i think there is a line between being cautious and a hinderance
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You already said it wasn't a hindrance, so we're agreed they were just being cautious, which is a good thing. :)
 
Eliot said:
YES because i have crashed....
Seriously can none of you read, i can handle my car let me assure you, I havent at anypoint said I AM GODS GIFT neither have I said im am the worlds best driver so surely by your own admission every one who has got on my back about this should go find a dry non icy/snowy road and do less than half the speed limit.

Post 8 seems to get the idea, and i think has hit the nail on the head.

Mark actually YOU clearly think YOU know everything as you apparently have seen me drive. You sir are a complete **** who despite knowing EVERYTHING about my driving ability lacks the ability to read.
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Jesus Christ, are you really that clueless? It's -2c to -15c outside depending on where you live, its been snowing, half the roads, particularly the rural roads are covered in ice and you're bleating on about drivers being cautious and how you can 'handle your car'? Are you really that dumb?

I drive fast - got the 9 points to prove it - but not in a million years am I racing around in these sort of conditons or being anything other than cautious. Only this evening, a driver in front of me, almost wiped himself out when joining the A52 from a small road near Bottesford. Slowed down for the T junction doing about 5mph but slid past the give way markings and ended up with the front of his car about metre into the 60mph lane of the A52 before he stopped. I went over same patch and almost did the same thing, but fortunately, was travelling slower than him. Braking distances really are absolutely enormous over ice.

You really must be utterly brain dead if you think its a good idea to drive fast in these sort of weather condition under some misguided belief than you can 'handle the car'. Unless you've got X-Ray vision more powerful than Superman's and have magic tyres that defy the laws of physics, I can 'assure' you that you're not going to able to much if you hit a patch of frozen ice on the road.
 
Eliot said:
I am young being 20, but im far from inexperienced, yes ive only being driving three years but in that time ive done about 20,000 miles or more driving every day in all weather, inculding that month of snow last year and to be fair i learned a LOT about driving in the snow that time, driving up to uni every day for a month 24 miles in each direction, one time in blizzard esque conditions. But believe me when i say the roads im talking about were dry as a bone and presente no problem at all when driving reasonably
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Hate to say it but you are inexperienced, a whole month of driving in snow and once in a blizzard!

I have driven in the north of Scotland for over 20 years, done numerous driving courses, but yet I still managed to roll my car a couple years ago on a road which didn't seem slippery, until i hit black ice!
 
MarkDavis said:
Jesus Christ, are you really that clueless? It's -2c to -15c outside depending on where you live, its been snowing, half the roads, particularly the rural roads are covered in ice and you're bleating on about drivers being cautious and how you can 'handle your car'? Are you really that dumb?

I drive fast - got the 9 points to prove it - but not in a million years am I racing around in these sort of conditons or being anything other than cautious. Only this evening, a driver in front of me, almost wiped himself out when joining the A52 from a small road near Bottesford. Slowed down for the T junction doing about 5mph but slid past the give way markings and ended up with the front of his car about metre into the 60mph lane of the A52 before he stopped. I went over same patch and almost did the same thing, but fortunately, was travelling slower than him. Braking distances really are absolutely enormous over ice.

You really must be utterly brain dead if you think its a good idea to drive fast in these sort of weather condition under some misguided belief than you can 'handle the car'. Unless you've got X-Ray vision more powerful than Superman's and have magic tyres that defy the laws of physics, I can 'assure' you that you're not going to able to much if you hit a patch of frozen ice on the road.
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1. was about 3c at the time..Call it between 4c and 0c for arguements sake.
2. i'm bleating about OVER cautiousness
3. not racing around in these conditions, i was 20mph off the speed limit, racing around would be what? 20 over?
4.braking distances are quite large over ice you are correct, good thing i stopped in good time for the crashed clio i mentioned in the first post then... and while sure they may be ice on the road i was on, but it could have been as bad as the roads you mention
5. im under no illusion im superhuman
6. please read in future before you type, i know im not the easiest poster to read but it might save instances like these in the future
 
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iaind said:
You already said it wasn't a hindrance, so we're agreed they were just being cautious, which is a good thing. :)
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this is true, but i believe they were slightly in the over cautious realm while i was in the cautious area IMO

Perhaps after this thread i will re evaluate a little more and drive maybe 45mph in that situation. However i still believe the others going 30 were over cautious
 
....and contribute to our insurance premiums next year by not having an accident because of driving like a **** in snow/ice. You may think its fine but if there is snow on the surroundings then the odds are the temp is low enough to freeze water on the roads which may appear clear but are infact VERY icey.
 
Eliot said:
the left lane was 30
the right lane consisted of someone doing about 35, overtaking and then and not going back in the left lane
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So they were maintaining a higher speed than the left lane?

I'll agree that that is truly a pain in the butt for those wanting to push the envelope :p
 
End Creditz said:
So they were maintaining a higher speed than the left lane?

I'll agree that that is truly a pain in the butt for those wanting to push the envelope :p
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left lane was free after they past yes, as there was only a few of them going 30 ish, after that every one ahead was moving away and they maintained a speed of 35 while the left lane was free, i was stuck behind this person
 
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ha ha.


Funny thread.



Also:

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Is that a Postman delivery letter post when it's snowing?
 
Eliot said:
3. not racing around in these conditions, i was 20mph off the speed limit, racing around would be what? 20 over?
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Not really... 20 over the speed limit (as we have already ascertained, the limit in question was a 70, so 20 over would equal 90mph) would imo be "racing around" in dry conditions in the summer.

In conditions where there may be black ice at the drop of a hat, I'd say that 50 could well be too fast, and be considered "racing around" by some.
 
This better explains your ire then. Well done on resisting what must've been a very strong urge to blat pass them on the inside. Never know when secret plod is watching ;)

When you're older you'll one day say to someone younger "You'll understand when you're older". At this point you're officially over the hill* and this is when you'll truly understand the reactions in this thread but well done for at least taking on board the constructive criticism muddled up with the digs :)



*This sucks so hard that I can't fully explain.... . . . . but you will understand when you're older :rolleyes:
 
volospian said:
Not really... 20 over the speed limit (as we have already ascertained, the limit in question was a 70, so 20 over would equal 90mph) would imo be "racing around" in dry conditions in the summer.

In conditions where there may be black ice at the drop of a hat, I'd say that 50 could well be too fast, and be considered "racing around" by some.
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i meant summer conditions, but yes i suppose 60-70 ish would be racing in the conditions i was in, seeing as 50 probably wasnt to much as my judgement of conditions meant i managed to stop in good time for a car crash
 
End Creditz said:
This better explains your ire then. Well done on resisting what must've been a very strong urge to blat pass them on the inside. Never know when secret plod is watching ;)

When you're older you'll one day say to someone younger "You'll understand when you're older". At this point you're officially over the hill* and this is when you'll truly understand the reactions in this thread but well done for at least taking on board the constructive criticism muddled up with the digs :)



*This sucks so hard that I can't fully explain.... . . . . but you will understand when you're older :rolleyes:
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I have no problem with the things you or iaind or RX536733MKMN whatever his name is We have been having a Debate.
I do have a problem with the things mark and similar have said.
I suspect youre right, and i will probably re-evaluate in the future, as said before maybe in the exact similar conditions i would drive slower but still not less than 40 either way. Time will tell. But i promise you im far more sensible than i seem
 
I have absolutely no problem whatsoever being stuck behind someone driving slowly in conditions like this. If conditions aren't that bad then overtake?

I'd much rather see people being overly cautious than driving like they would every other day of the week. I've seen 2 idiots today driving far too quickly down a road covered in snow. Both happened to be women.

There is ice and slush in the roads, people need to drive with a 'what if' attitute in weather like this.
 
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