Snow and Retardedly slow driving (doing my head in)

To the OP.

We all have to share the roads with other people. Some are more cautious than me other less so. Some are in a hurry, others aren't.

The key to arriving home in an unstressed state is to realise that just chilling is the best way forward. Getting home 10 minutes late after a relaxed drive is far better than getting home 10 minutes late stressed to the eyeballs after cursing all the other drivers.

Calm down and chill ;)
 
feszter

you sound like a slow driver anyway.. whatever the weather.

if you're driving on a motorway and a lorry pulls to the right while your overtaking and you're killed, would you say you're going to fast ?

what if you're driving 30mph past a school and a kid steps out ? would you have time to stop ? in dry conditions! ooh no, you're going to fast..

do people tend to step out on the road when its snowing, i dont think they do, unless they're mad..

give the lad a break, ive been driving 10+ years now and everyone knows the difference between a snowy road and a salt wet road..

so why do people drive on the motorway at 30mph when its wet but the fields are white ? probably because they're old or dont know how to drive..

i'd say these people need to stay in the house because they obviously dont have common sence. dont have any sort of feel for how a car works or drives and obviously couldnt care a less either..

these people wheel spin to pull off yet drive slow in the snow.. what they need to do is drive a little faster where its safe to move trafic along and drive slower, less revs when pulling off.. but no, they dont, so please just walk to work, but not too fast, you may knock a kid down
 
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So 20,000 miles and a maximum of 3 years total road driving experience makes you the expert? That's quite funny!
You need to chill out a bit and realise that however experienced you may think you are, you aren't.
 
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Most people completely overreact when there's a bit of snow. The main road here is well plowed and treated at the moment, but the majority still insist on doing 35-40mph down the inside lane, with pretty much everyone tailgaiting the car in front. I was able to do 50-60 down the outside more safely despite the cover of snow as people in the main seem to know what they're doing in the outside and give each other miles of space.
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What irritates me is the tailgating, if the conditions were as bad as they seem to think, shouldn't they be keeping a much greater distance? I no, wait, I'm trying to apply logic, silly me :rolleyes: :p
 
ive had a bit of both of this. Monday night, i was the fastest car out there it seemed, everyone was doing 20-30mph (i was doing about 50) on the M2, yet today, it was totally opposite. I was sliding all over the place at 30mph yet i kept getting everyone overtaking me by moving into a lane which in some cases had 2 or 3 inches of snow on. Some were still doing 70mph!
 
It's pretty comedy over here, the same thing happens with snow in the UK as when you get a spot of rain - drivers completely spaz out and appear to completely forget how to drive - without exception when there is even a bit of drizzle, there will be a litany of rear-enders littering the hard shoulder :p

Should send them over to the UK for wet weather driving experience :D
 
Errrr, I'm taking it easy the moment it snows or even shows temps around 1 C. OP, I don't know for you but I've had some pretty close calls last year, this winter I'm taking no risk, rather be a ''slow moron'' in this weather than crash my car into a lamppost... Don't want to be surprised by that one unsalted iced bit. If it snows I usually half my speed. Don't want my work to moan that I crashed a 3 week old car either, just don't want to risk it unneccesarity.. Any road with corners and junctions will be 30-40 mph max on snowy roads me, more often around 25 mpg in the city...
 
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i wouldnt be able to handle he embarrasment of binning my car, even in the snow, so i will drive at whatever speed i feel is safe, regardless of people overtaking

and do you think the roads would be a safer place if the people wanting to drive at a snails pace were pushed to "make more progress" and drive totally out of their depth?

my advice is. get over it, man up, grow some balls, indicate right and overtake
 
Last year in snow on bike I had was having to travel at around 15mph tops in snow... yet in built up area (30mph) some *&^%$ still had to floor it to get past me, which was darn right dangerous imo, for other people and me!

As imature as it sounds he promptly got the bird and a hail of verbal abuse, I was livid, and shaking with fear

I went to turn into work later and got stuck on a 1inch dropped kerb, straight away every *&^% in the traffic was beeping at me, I got off and tried to push it but was just ice... luckily some guys from in work come out and saved me

Yesterday I had a audi A4 doing 30 in a NSL for no reason, I decided to overtake slowly, I got next to him and he floored it for no reason other than to *&^% me off... I had to accel to get back to my lane hard and as I did rear tyre stepped out and then regripped and I highsided (though stayed on thank god)

I think this weather does bring out the ahole in people, though the guy who stopped car to pick my bike up and push me to work was a star, a genuine hero in my book :D



One thing this teaches me is that a fast bike on snow / ice turns into a granny in micra road user... now I know how they feel :(, I think we should give them all a break. people drive at a speed they can handle, live with it!, or catch a bus
 
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Eliot said:
I am young being 20, but im far from inexperienced, yes ive only being driving three years but in that time ive done about 20,000 miles or more driving every day in all weather, inculding that month of snow last year and to be fair i learned a LOT about driving in the snow that time, driving up to uni every day for a month 24 miles in each direction, one time in blizzard esque conditions. But believe me when i say the roads im talking about were dry as a bone and presente no problem at all when driving reasonably
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Well come back in 20 years when you have seen the result of ****ish over confident driving then.
 
20k miles is a years driving for a lot of people.

ive done 80k+ in my old golf alone (and owned four cars in that time) and loads before that too, and still, pretty much everyday you will learn something. other drivers always come up with new and inventive way of trying to kill you
 
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MarkDavis said:
Jesus Christ, are you really that clueless? It's -2c to -15c outside depending on where you live, its been snowing, half the roads, particularly the rural roads are covered in ice and you're bleating on about drivers being cautious and how you can 'handle your car'? Are you really that dumb?

I drive fast - got the 9 points to prove it - but not in a million years am I racing around in these sort of conditons or being anything other than cautious. Only this evening, a driver in front of me, almost wiped himself out when joining the A52 from a small road near Bottesford. Slowed down for the T junction doing about 5mph but slid past the give way markings and ended up with the front of his car about metre into the 60mph lane of the A52 before he stopped. I went over same patch and almost did the same thing, but fortunately, was travelling slower than him. Braking distances really are absolutely enormous over ice.

You really must be utterly brain dead if you think its a good idea to drive fast in these sort of weather condition under some misguided belief than you can 'handle the car'. Unless you've got X-Ray vision more powerful than Superman's and have magic tyres that defy the laws of physics, I can 'assure' you that you're not going to able to much if you hit a patch of frozen ice on the road.
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I don't think you've taken into account the fact that "Its 3c and theres no ice (this is a fact, there really was no ice!!!!1111)" and he does have over 20,000 miles of driving experience!!! :rolleyes:
 
Mickie said:
feszter

you sound like a slow driver anyway.. whatever the weather.
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Indeed, after much experience I have slowed down. But slow is relative. I enjoy a fast drive when and if the conditions are right. The reason for taking the wife's car ? Because I doubt my RWD beast would survive in this snow - again, a lesson learned from experience.

"Slow" is relative. That is the point I was making to the OP. Hence, he would always get a mixed bag of responses and most would be negative because the assumption would be that OP's interpretation of slow was anyone doing less than an absurd amount of speed given this weather. Again, it comes down to the conditions - if indeed his roads were clear and dry, then he's absolutely right. Given the evidence outside of everyone's front door, that seems unlikely (though not impossible).

what if you're driving 30mph past a school and a kid steps out ? would you have time to stop ? in dry conditions! ooh no, you're going to fast..
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What you could not have known when you made the assumption that I was driving too slowly, is that the Renault driver who overtook me did so right outside a secondary school at 3.15pm. I would say it was HIGHLY LIKELY a kid may have run out in front of him. Would I be able to stop at 30mph in dry weather ? I believe - yes. But if I see some kids walking close to the road, I'll be vigilant and slow down a little more just in case anyway. I think that's just being mature.

Yes there are slower and faster drivers on the road, but someone else summed it up nicely above

The key to arriving home in an unstressed state is to realise that just chilling is the best way forward. Getting home 10 minutes late after a relaxed drive is far better than getting home 10 minutes late stressed to the eyeballs after cursing all the other drivers.

Calm down and chill
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Young drivers seem to get easily riled. I was one of them, so I think I speak with authority on that. With the benefit of hindsight, it was foolhardy and achieved nothing, and usually resulted in something silly happening.
 
As it happens I've seen the same stuff this week. Perfectly clear NSL roads that I would be happy doing about 50 on in the conditions. Not even any slush in sight. And yet I'm stuck behind somebody doing 25.

I think people here are getting a bit too hung up on the OP's age/experience thing.
 
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