Student protest today - spec me a sign

Dolph said:
I propose a new rule. The costs of policing protests is taken out of the protesters funding. So the cost of policing the student protests and riots falls on the HE budget. Likewise the cost of public sector strikes falls on the public sector budgets. In addition to this, budgets will be enforced rigidly, and there will be no prohibition against putting the cuts onto those who cause them.
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Should the costs of keeping the PM and other ministers safe be taken out of their wage?
 
rypt said:
Should the costs of keeping the PM and other ministers safe be taken out of their wage?
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When in power? No, because the costs are associated with their job. Out of power, yes, they should.

Very much an apples and a small australian perfume company comparison though...
 
Mucky_Pup said:
If I see officer 2603 I'll buy him a pint, lol.

Congrats, all you muppets managed to achieve today was waste money needing police officers to babysit you and annoy majority of the people who were doing their shopping, and the people who might be on your side, but all the spitting out of dummies has turned them against your ilk, if the numerous comments I heard from many different people were anything to go by, e.g. Muppets, ******s, & ****s.

"Ooooo look at us, we can walk up and down a highstreet and whinge on about wanting to do optional education as an overall goal of trying to get a higher paying job, but we don't want to pay for it. And we can play t-rex's children of the revolution on a loudspeaker, aren't we revolutionaries."

Aye, whatever.
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Dolph said:
I propose a new rule. The costs of policing protests is taken out of the protesters funding. So the cost of policing the student protests and riots falls on the HE budget. Likewise the cost of public sector strikes falls on the public sector budgets. In addition to this, budgets will be enforced rigidly, and there will be no prohibition against putting the cuts onto those who cause them.
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Did you both attend university?
 
explicit4u said:
Just wondering if the both of you attended university?
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Yes. It was there I formed my view that students are just like the general population, there are a significant number of idiots and morons in both, as well as a good proportion who look for any excuse to have a whinge and kick up a fuss.
 
FoxEye said:
Which are heavily influenced by the quality of secondary education you receive; which is in turn decided by how much money your parents have.

I'm not having a go at state schools, but 30-60 children in a class can't compare to the much more generous teacher:student ratio in public schools. The closer you get to 1:1 tuition the better, really.
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If someone wants to work hard and they are intelligent, they can get good results at pretty much any school. GCSEs aren't really important, and A level classes are never 30 - let alone 60. I've never seen a class of 60 at a school... the biggest class I'm seen is 32... Most classes are 20-30 at GCSE and below. When you reach A level, class sizes range from about 5 to 25. Help is always available for keen students. There are 2 reasons why people fail A levels... Either they have little ability in the subject they are studying or (more commonly) they are too lazy... Seriously almost no one spends the study periods studying
 
Dolph said:
I propose a new rule. The costs of policing protests is taken out of the protesters funding. So the cost of policing the student protests and riots falls on the HE budget. Likewise the cost of public sector strikes falls on the public sector budgets.
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What about anti war protesters, enviromental or just the right to protest against the government (ideologically cut related or not)?

You have to cover the costs?

What about civil disobedience and street crime, bill them too?

Can we bill the royal family for their security arrangements while we are at it?

I think you are conflating these subjects.




Dolph said:
In addition to this, budgets will be enforced rigidly, and there will be no prohibition against putting the cuts onto those who cause them.
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Budgets already are enforced rigidly.

Putting the cuts onto those who cause them? Sounds just like a vindictive tory.

Will that be reckless bankers and inept Westminster politicians then?

I must have missed the day when the students or civil servants near collapsed our economy.
 
Dolph said:
I propose a new rule. The costs of policing protests is taken out of the protesters funding. So the cost of policing the student protests and riots falls on the HE budget. Likewise the cost of public sector strikes falls on the public sector budgets. In addition to this, budgets will be enforced rigidly, and there will be no prohibition against putting the cuts onto those who cause them.
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We get funding now? :eek:
 
Dolph said:
Yes. It was there I formed my view that students are just like the general population, there are a significant number of idiots and morons in both, as well as a good proportion who look for any excuse to have a whinge and kick up a fuss.
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Which group was you in since you was a student ;)
 
Dolph said:
I propose a new rule. The costs of policing protests is taken out of the protesters funding. So the cost of policing the student protests and riots falls on the HE budget. Likewise the cost of public sector strikes falls on the public sector budgets. In addition to this, budgets will be enforced rigidly, and there will be no prohibition against putting the cuts onto those who cause them.
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So you'd punish all for the actions of a few? Seems like an approach with an awful lot of stick there, I'm not seeing much of a carrot.

Dolph said:
When in power? No, because the costs are associated with their job. Out of power, yes, they should.
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Interesting, do ex-PMs still continue to draw a wage from government coffers often or do you mean their pensions? Is this idea to try to encourage a certain amount of restraint in their actions on the assumption that if they don't do anything too stupid or unpopular that they'll suffer lower policing costs in the future - an incentive to rule well or at least popularly?
 
The funny thing is these protests have achieved absolutely nothing, other than taint peoples opinions of students even more than before.
 
ordinaryjoe said:
If someone wants to work hard and they are intelligent, they can get good results at pretty much any school. GCSEs aren't really important, and A level classes are never 30 - let alone 60. I've never seen a class of 60 at a school... the biggest class I'm seen is 32... Most classes are 20-30 at GCSE and below. When you reach A level, class sizes range from about 5 to 25. Help is always available for keen students. There are 2 reasons why people fail A levels... Either they have little ability in the subject they are studying or (more commonly) they are too lazy... Seriously almost no one spends the study periods studying
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Sure, students who were already motivated should do well wherever they go. Public schools are generally more disciplined, however, and produce motivated, hard-working, interested students who might have simply drifted through at a state school.

I'm not saying it's all down to the school. Parents have a huge roll to play. But being privately educated can only be an advantage. Unless you go to an all boys/girls school :p But the world always needs fashion designers :p
 
Dolph said:
Yes. It was there I formed my view that students are just like the general population, there are a significant number of idiots and morons in both, as well as a good proportion who look for any excuse to have a whinge and kick up a fuss.
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N'awww come on, you like me really :p
 
[Corsa]Fox;17905217 said:
No, violent peoples fault.
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I'm not sure who's fault it was because I didn't read up... but I can understand people's frustration when you see people being arrested as they were on Coppers (TV programme)... for merely standing out.

Hemmed in, pushed about, shouted at, friends/myself being arrested for section blah under the act blah... only to be released without charge. I'd be getting ****ed off too.
 
There's a girl on my facebook from uni who is heavily involved with NUS/NUSS and these protests. She just put this up on her facebook:

"Mad Leftie: http://www.voteagainstfees.com/ don't let lib dems destray your education, everone should fight against fees!!"

It made me lol.
 
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