Poll: D Day the 3rd December

Would you prefer...

  • Yes I want GMT to be changed (I live in England)

    Votes: 74 27.7%
  • Yes I want GMT to be changed (I live in Norn Iron)

    Votes: 3 1.1%
  • Yes I want GMT to be changed (I live in Skirt Wearer country)

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • Yes I want GMT to be changed (I live in Here Be Dragons)

    Votes: 5 1.9%
  • No I don't want GMT to be changed (I live in England)

    Votes: 106 39.7%
  • No I don't want GMT to be changed (I live in Norn Iron)

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • No I don't want GMT to be changed (I live in Skirt Wearer country)

    Votes: 9 3.4%
  • No I don't want GMT to be changed (I live in Here Be Dragons)

    Votes: 8 3.0%
  • I don't care in the slightest, go away and leave me in peace

    Votes: 54 20.2%

  • Total voters
    267
Because it doesn't benefit the farmers or everyone up here. If everyone wants to change down south let them. Just remember change your time when you get up here.

I've never understood this argument - it's not like farmers are in 9-5 jobs is it? The cows will still be getting up at the same old time so what difference will it make?
 
Has this been approved?

It passed the second reading:

We won this round – it’s about time!
03 Dec 2010
Amazing news: at 2.10pm today the Daylight Saving Bill PASSED its crucial second reading in the House of Commons. We’ve got a long way to go yet – but this is a massive leap forward and it’s all thanks to you.

The day started with huge uncertainty, amid reports of MPs leaving London early because of the snow. With the vote fast approaching and a poor turnout looking increasingly likely, it was all hands to the phones as hundreds of you sent last-minute emails and called to get MPs into the chamber. At 10:10 HQ we were frantically doing the same. In the end, MPs turned up in their droves, including one who came back from paternity leave especially!

In the end it worked and we won the two votes: an amazing 123 MPs voted to close the debate (basically saying they’d heard enough and were ready to take a stance on the bill), with the motion itself being passed with a majority of 82 votes. You can watch the full debate here and read the Hansard transcript of the debate here.

There’s still plenty of work to be done to make lighter evenings a reality but right now I want to thank you all so very much for your support in making this victory happen. Today’s is the biggest development on this issue for decades, and only with your herculean efforts have we been able to make Lighter Later a reality. Time after time, MPs on the floor referenced your emails, letters and calls in support of the bill as what persuaded them to vote yes today.

I’d also quickly like to thank Rebecca Harris MP and her team for their amazing work, the rest of the Lighter Later coalition and finally the team here: Sion, Maddy, Suki, Mal, Robin and John, and all at 10:10 – who have been working around the clock over the last few weeks.

Source

It will now go to the comittee stage

The Bill
 
Consider that most schools now close at 3.15pm or 3.30pm which means that they still have daylight to find their way home after school. Imposing darkness on Scotland past 9.30am is not on, time we went on our own.

It's not just the north, it's the south too. It will still only just be getting light at half 8 (if that) in Southampton if this goes through.

Even more reason to get a job in Oz. No way am I spending half the year getting up in the dark. I just don't get the energy saving thing tbh (in winter at least). Instead of having the lights on for an extra hour in the evening (which is rubbish anyway as it will still be dark enough for lights to be going on at home as soon as people get back from work) but people will have to have their lights on for that extra hour in the morning too. So that means instead of saving electricity we actually use more...:rolleyes:

Summer is slighty different and I wouldn't really be opposed to a 2 hour switch instead of 1 for BST.
 

For a summer time of +2 hours from GMT, not a change in the winter time.:confused:

Even their charts show that there is little to no difference in changing the winter time. The only thing it acually showed was that more people would spend their mornings in the dark...

The Sports Council for England have said that, “This increased opportunity of extra daylight after work, combined with our policy priority to get employers to do more in terms of promoting activity among their work force, could make a significant contribution towards driving up participation rates and delivering the associated health benefits that would stem from having an active and successful sporting nation.” Official Report: 8 June 2004; Vol. 422, c. 147.

Again, summer, bearing in mind people wouldn't be finishing work until dust even with the new proposals

In the words of Greg Lewis, Policy Manager for Communities and Society at Age Concern and Help the Aged: "We know that many older people will not go out once it is dark and having lighter evenings would mean that more older people could spend more time out of their homes if they choose to do so. Given the significant recent rises in energy prices, reducing household energy bills is now a further consideration.”

Well all the old people I know get up at around 8 anyway so they won't be seeing any extra sunshine either.

Most of their arguments at best point towards an extended BST not GMT+1 in winter.
 
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I am in favour of this as long as Berlin time changes whatever they call their time to GMT.

We invented time, we get to call it ours. :D

Its not called Berlin Time, its called Central European Time (CET).

I agree, seems like the media is prodding the British/German animosity again....
 
Its not called Berlin Time, its called Central European Time (CET).

I agree, seems like the media is prodding the British/German animosity again....

This Berlin time thing is rubbish as CET is used by all this lot:

•Albania
•Andorra
•Austria
•Belgium
•Bosnia-Herzegovina
•Croatia
•Czech Republic
•Denmark (mainland)
•France
•Germany
•Gibraltar
•Holy See/Vatican City
•Hungary
•Italy
•Kosovo
•Liechtenstein
•Luxembourg
•Macedonia, Republic of
•Malta
•Monaco
•Montenegro
•Netherlands
•Norway
•Poland
•San Marino
•Serbia
•Slovakia
•Slovenia
•Spain
•Sweden
•Switzerland​
 
Here's some good news on the time change bill :)

4 Mar 2011
THE campaign to change Britain’s clocks to so-called “Berlin time” suffered a major setback yesterday when the UK Government decided not to include the proposal in its tourism strategy.

John Penrose, the Coalition’s Tourism Minister, admitted the proposal had been “in, then out, then in and then out” of the final document, published yesterday.

The Conservative frontbencher said it had been decided not to include it as it did not really add to the Government’s view that going on to European time was an interesting idea and that any change would not be introduced without the consent of those living in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/government-drops-clock-change-plan-1.1088502
 
Switching to CET will be beneficial to the UK economy. If nothing is more important than reducing the deficit as our government claim then switching to CET is the only logical vote. I assume this is a private members bill in any case? therefore it has no chance.

Not in Northern Ireland or Scotland it won't.
 
How about we had a poll on this ourselves?

I DO NOT WANT. Lets keep GMT. Why arse about with the clocks at all? Data can be manipulated to show whatever you like.
 
Well, we could have a referendum but I think our representatives in parliament - at least in Scottish an Ireland have made it pretty clear now that its not going to happen with their consent, and it would be silly to have Scotland on GREENWICH time and England on Central European time.
 
I'm not entirely sure why people are worried about getting up in the dark? Does it really make much difference how light it is outside when you are in the shower or eating breakfast?
 
A poll would be great if a kindly don would oblige. Nine simple options:

Yes I want GMT to be changed (I live in England)
Yes I want GMT to be changed (I live in Northern Ireland)
Yes I want GMT to be changed (I live in Scotland)
Yes I want GMT to be changed (I live in Wales)
No I don't want GMT to be changed (I live in England)
No I don't want GMT to be changed (I live in Northern Ireland)
No I don't want GMT to be changed (I live in Scotland)
No I don't want GMT to be changed (I live in Wales)
I don't care one way or the other

Country list is alphabetical btw ;)
 
This has to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

The 10 reasons for it on the campaign website is laughable.

Things are perfectly fine the way they are.
 
This has to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

The 10 reasons for it on the campaign website is laughable.

Things are perfectly fine the way they are.

Completely. Where is the other side of the argument? Where is the balancing view? It seems that the only real opposition is the scots and irish. People above the watford gap are ignored.
 
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