Iphone or Andriod: Which first smartphone for Oxy?

mulpsmebeauty said:
The iPhone has definitely got a massive 'Apple Gadget' premium shoved onto the price.
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I don't get why people say this, it's a high end product and is actually similar price to android phones

Iphone 4g 8Gb sim free £419
Samsung Galaxy S 8GB £ 414

Although you can usually find deals on androids, as to which is better as someone said, it's personal preference and slightly different uses.
 
AcidHell2 said:
except it does work out the box, it's a drop in signal, not a total collapse of signal. In other words it still works and functions, still makes and receives phone calls out of the box.
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Whether it's a drop in signal or a complete collaps depends entirely on the signal strength of the area you're in at the time. Sure, if you're in a strong signal area, you might not get many dropped calls, but how about areas where the signal is already weak to begin with?

Again, the phrase "always works out of the box" implies perfect functionality for every single unit, something that has been demonstrably proven false.
 
I cant really add much to what has been said already, so I'll keep it (fairly) short -

If you want a phone that is simple, does the job well, no fancy buttons, a good selection of games and you dont like 'fiddling' with it - get the iPhone 4. Be prepared to pay a LOT more for it though on a contract.

If you want a fully customisable phone, where the vast majority of features are superior, get an Android phone. The experience on it is just as good as the iPhone.

Have a look at the HTC Desire HD, the battery isn't quite as good as the iPhone 4 but its not far off.

Also another good point about the iPhone, in areas of low signal you will experience a signal drop/loss when you hold it a certain way.

Also, look at Windows Phone 7, its basically a 'better' version of the iPhone. You have a cheaper, better selection of handsets to choose from and its design is more intuitive than that of the iPhone.

AcidHell2 said:
I don't get why people say this, it's a high end product and is actually similar price to android phones

Iphone 4g 8Gb sim free £419
Samsung Galaxy S 8GB £ 414

Although you can usually find deals on androids, as to which is better as someone said, it's personal preference and slightly different uses.
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There isn't an 8GB iPhone '4g' :confused: :p
 
AcidHell2 said:
I don't get why people say this, it's a high end product and is actually similar price to android phones
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I dunno how the networks work things out in terms of how they subsidise the phones, but when I was looking a couple of weeks back, all bar a couple of the places I looked had the iPhone 4 priced as follows:

£35/month for 24 months
phone cost £119
600 mins, unlimited texts, 500Mb data.

Total and utter lack of competition. There were places doing slightly better deals, but there's little significant variation, certainly not if you want choice over your provider.

My other choice would have been a Desire HD, which looking now, can be had for free on £25/month, only 300 mins, but same texts and data. Sure if you bought the Desire HD new it'd cost in the region of £460+, but when it comes to deals the network can offer, it's much cheaper.
 
Ok lets look at this logically as I'm getting confuseddededed.

I got a choice of:

iphone4: too much money I think for me atm

Android: What is best tariff and best handset for £25 pm?

ORange San Fransico: unlock, root it, £15 Tesco mobile sim.

Win7 Phone: What handset and tariff for £25pm?
 
Oxy said:
Ok lets look at this logically as I'm getting confuseddededed.

I got a choice of:

iphone4: too much money I think for me atm - Good decision.

Android: What is best tariff and best handset for £25 pm?

Look here - http://www.mobiles.co.uk/htc-desire-hd.html or here - http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-samsung-galaxy-s.html

ORange San Fransico: unlock, root it, £15 Tesco mobile sim.

Win7 Phone: What handset and tariff for £25pm?

Look here - http://www.buymobilephones.net/mobile-phones/Samsung/Samsung-i8700-Omnia-7/30,55441
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Just make sure you get an internet package on whatever deal you look at, not all of them have one.
 
Only yesterday these guys had the San Fransisco in stock.

Not there now.... :confused:

You may have more luck locating an Orange store, on the High Street.

Just dont mention the unlocking and flashin bits! ;)
 
It seems like you're set on the Orange SF, and I'd say that at your price range it's a good decision. You can get it fairly cheaply, and if you love it can consider upgrading to a more full-on smartphone. If you don't feel the need then you save money. Were I you, I'd wait to find it in stock :)
 
Not sure on tariff but I would say current phones.

Android would be the Desire HD(4.3 Super LCD but looks washed out and viewing angles are not as good, or a Cheap Galaxy S(4" Super AMOLED(looks fantastic).

Win 7 the Samsung Omnia 7 as its got the same screen as the galaxy S and has on-board nand flash rather than a micro sd card that the HTD HD7/Mozart etc have which is proven to be slower at loading things than the Omnia 7.

San Francisco could be a filler untill the next wave of phones might be a good choice for you.
 
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Jabbs said:
Android would be the Desire HD(4.3 Super LCD but looks washed out and viewing angles are not as good, or a Cheap Galaxy S(4" Super AMOLED(looks fantastic).
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I dont understand this. While I agree the colours dont look as good, washed out is not the correct term for it. It does not look washed out at all.

I was expecting it to after everything I've heard, but next to the SAMOLED on my Omnia 7 its just a 'meh' difference and nothing that would change your mind one way or the other, especially when its a pain in the arse to read small text so you have to zoom in more than you might want to on the LED screen.

Viewing angles, fair enough, they aren't anywhere near as good but 99% of the time you are looking at your phone from the front anyway.
 
When we played the same videos on my brothers Desire HD and the Omnia 7 the difference was very very noticeable, it didn't look as good the darks were not as good and the colours, even my brother commented on how washed out the colours look and he isn't into phones like I am.

All the reviews said the same thing on the DHD/HD7 how poor the screen looks, I had it for a week and the screen was a big disappointment for me and the dire battery life.


Robboftw said:
Viewing angles, fair enough, they aren't anywhere near as good but 99% of the time you are looking at your phone from the front anyway.
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You answered my question yes you look at the screen the most so I would want it looking the best it possibly can and sacrifice .3 of a inch, to me 4" is the optimal size, when i was walking with the DHD it always felt too big to use one handed comfortably and wasn't very good in sunlight also.
 
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Orange suck hehe my local sotre is shut and the store in an adjacent town is supposed to be open but the phone line goes straight to voice mail :/
 
Jabbs said:
All the reviews said the same thing on the DHD/HD7 how poor the screen looks, I had it for a week and the screen was a big disappointment for me and the dire battery life.
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The battery life is not dire, my DHD outlasts my Omnia 7 and it does considerably more in the background.

I'm afraid you are just another person who hasn't really given it a chance and tested it properly :(

Fair enough on the screen, its not as good at some things, mainly video and colour reproduction. However, I bet you spend more time looking at text on your phone than watching videos, so you could start arguing the SLCD is better easily. Many people do.
 
I can get 2 days easy out of my Omnia 7 with good use, my brother is complaining as he is having to charge every day he gets home from work with lighter use than me, there is no competition a 1230mah battery won't out last a 1500 and everyone is saying the same thing about them the battery life is terrible that phone with its bigger screen needed a 2000mah in.

I had it for just over a week that's long enough for me to find flaws with the battery and the screen, you don't need months to find these things out and before anyone says it takes a month for it to get better well my bro's had it for just over 2 months now.

I have no issues with text and can't say I noticed much difference between the two after using them, the omnia is better outside so that's a plus for me, I got nothing against the DHD but its not enough of a upgrade over the standard Desire and if you had one there would be no reason to get a DHD, I just feel HTC didn't do enough with it to make its more appealing.

Now my brother is trying to get me to swop phones and offer me cash also for this but I just don't want the DHD back.
 
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Jabbs said:
I can get 2 days easy out of my Omnia 7 with good use, my brother is complaining as he is having to charge every day he gets home from work with lighter use than me, there is no competition a 1230mah battery won't out last a 1500 and everyone is saying the same thing about them the battery life is terrible.

I had it for just over a week that's long enough for me to find flaws with the battery and the screen, you don't need months to find these things out.
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The DHD battery out of the box is awful, there is no disputing that. However, after 10 or so days and setting the phone up properly, it can hold its own against the majority of smartphone batteries. I have tested this properly myself over peroids of weeks with each phone and can confirm it. The Omnia battery, despite being 1500mAh, isn't as good as it should be. I thought it was really good at first, but then once you start using various features of the phone a bit more it really shot down fast.

I think something you (and many other people) have to accept is that if you want a capable smartphone at the moment, you are going to have to charge it every day. Its no good having an extra 30% capacity really, because you aren't going to want to go to work the next day with 30% battery are you? No. You'll need to charge it.

The only real use it has is if you can get 3 days or more, or if you need to hammer the phone solid all day it will last longer, that is very rarely the case. For example, after the first day with moderate usage your battery is around 60-70%, only really the iPhone 4 can manage this on moderate usage and that is the 'battery leader' at the moment.

It may seem like I'm having a pop at your phone, I'm not, I love the Omnia 7 and its hard to choose between it and the DHD, I will say one thing though, I much prefer both of them to the iPhone 4. The fact they aren't a ripoff is just a bonus :p

Jabbs said:
I have no issues with text and can't say I noticed much difference between the two after using them, the omnia is better outside so that's a plus for me, I got nothing against the DHD but its not enough of a upgrade over the standard Desire and if you had one there would be no reason to get a DHD.
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It isn't better outside, its about even. I also thought it wasn't much of an upgrade over the original Desire, especially one with an LED screen. Oh, how wrong I was :)
 
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