Wikileaks - latest leak
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Yeah heard that on C4 news last night. They were interviewing his legal dude and he said it was making it impossible to prepair.
Well it takes time to prepare for a solicitors convention.
I dont think thats for certain with all this madness, who can be sure that no proof will result in no conviction?
I dont know what to believe anymore, I'm not paranoid(maybe I am but) it does look like the media, the governments are blatantly colluding to fit this guy up. And there are different types of collusion. There is being told to do this, and there is doing this because, we want things to stay this way, and please these other people.
Maybe we will never know because the governments will destroy wikileaks, and will make sure not to write anything down, and whisper very quietly when they ordered Assange to be discredited.
So it looks like we do live in a world like 1984, maybe its not as bad as that, but thats the crux, it would never really get as bad as that, and why does it have to be as bad as that for it to be unnaceptable.
I'm ranting, but its bemusing to watch it and hear what people are saying in defence of it. I lost my faith ages ago.
Impressive that www.mastercard.com/uk/ is still down.
That they'd do such a crap job of it would be though.
you'd think if the American government where doing it it would be well scripted and you know examined for obvious errors beforehand.
Or does the CIA consist of a drunk yelling "yeah that'll do, just improv it" at random Swedish women?
Im hoping he goes down, I dont care what its for, just as long he gets put behind bars
Why exactly?
I'm glad there's someone like him who actually stands up to governments, etc. and fights for freedom of speech, and I hope everything goes well for him. I'd donate if Paypal worked for them.
Few things about this have me thinking....
Somethings don't need to be released, a list of targets that would help crumble a nation seems just pointless. What does it prove?
He's doing it for transparency so everyone can see what really goes on etc.. He has a file that should he be arrested/put behind bars will get released showing massive things about BP and the USA.
That's kind of holding people to ransom for his own good, he's all up for exposing the truth but only what suits him it appears?
Somethings don't need to be released, a list of targets that would help crumble a nation seems just pointless. What does it prove?
He's doing it for transparency so everyone can see what really goes on etc.. He has a file that should he be arrested/put behind bars will get released showing massive things about BP and the USA.
That's kind of holding people to ransom for his own good, he's all up for exposing the truth but only what suits him it appears?
Or maybe those errors mean people will look at say wouldn't do such a poor job of it.
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yet it's the errors you're all jumping on saying it shows it's a fit up...
I think they'd prefer "found guilty an going to to jail for rape" over "found innocent clearly all made up to smear him".
[TW]Fox;17956574 said:
Well, yeah, it's not like he dragged them down an alley and beat them to death afterwards...
Based on the accounts, it all sounds perfectly consensual until the women changed their minds afterwards.
He is a founder of Wikileaks. Wikileaks isn't only him.
The 'insurance file' is to ensure that the information gets out no matter what happens to anyone - it's remaining encrypted at the moment so that the leaks are gradually revealed.
The main problem with the legal case at the moment is that they are (or were) all allegations with no actual charges... just an intent to detain him. Whilst I have no idea whether there's any truth to the allegations, there are a lot of governmental influences at play here.
(and if anyone is still wondering where the site went: http://pastebin.com/RyjiRExM)
He hasn't released any targets that would "help crumble a nation" and hasn't implied that he has any intention of doing so.
R5RRich said:
Yes, this is a good thing, as governments do things in the name of their citizens with their citizens' money.
R5Rich said:
Indeed, and who can blame him for having a bit of insurance. He's a high profile target, as is now abundantly clear.
R5Rich said:
It's not really holding them to ransom; it's ensuring that they don't unduly **** with him.
And I'm not sure what you're imlying by saying that he's only keen on exposing the truth when it suits him...
Thanks to paypal we now know for a fact that the US government is using non-legal routes to shut down a media organisation because they don't like what they are doing...
Sound familiar to anyone? A state suppressing freedom of speech and a free press through non-legal channels? Yep, welcome to china, burma, n korea, and the USA. What hypocrisy.
Sound familiar to anyone? A state suppressing freedom of speech and a free press through non-legal channels? Yep, welcome to china, burma, n korea, and the USA. What hypocrisy.
yeah it's a real ball ache trying to make money when you give up everything you've got at once much better to slowly hand it out over time, get some repeat donations in.
I haven’t seen them suppress freedom of speech or a free press. The leakies are still coming out.
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Absolutely, which is the point I made earlier (Perhaps in another thread?). I dont like him, I dont like Wikileaks but I doubt he's really done much in this particular case and I doubt the CIA are involved, either.
It's a non-profit organisation. If, you believe that these guys are risking long jail sentences for money, you are sadly mistaken.