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69xx pictures and pricing
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I'm sure he means the crossfire connector. It has only one, there isn't enough room under the cap for two.
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They aren't, as said there is one, its covered by a piece of blue plastic, each of my 5850's had the same protective cover on, actually not sure my whatever the heck brand my first one did, my Asus certainly did.
IT does however look like a small card and has one connector, unless its a magically tiny 6990 or they've cut out tri/quad fire from the 6970/6950 cards, its actually a picture of a 6870 and that whole post is complete rubbish.
Considering they should know, if they HAD the card, what it was they've simply taken(or been given) pictures and been told what it was, and been too stupid to realise its an already released card. If they can't get the right card pictured I'd put literally no faith in their prices.
Its very hard to know what the prices will be, largely as we don't know what the die size is 20% increase in die size would equate to 20% less dies off a wafer, with identical yields that would mean a 20% increase in price, if yields are slightly down, or up who knows. 2gb memory shouldn't be "that" big a deal, though the leak there with basic specs and some bits blacked out, with the 6950 having more blacked out, specifically in memory, makes me think the 6950 might only have 1gb memory.
Either way its still the same amount of chips, just double density memory chips 128mb per chip, or 256mb chips which we'll probably see on the 6970/6990 cards. If you were using 16 128mb chips, you'd expect memory cost to close to double, but 8 bigger chips should be cheaper, more so if the double density was achieved with smaller process node, not sure if thats what Samsung/eplida have done.
An article posted on semi accurate says how there are going to be less 6950s but more 6970s due to chip binning iirc.
In terms of pricing supply and demand may therefore force the two prices closer together.
The 570 is going to be 280-300 so I think these cards will straddle that price point.
In terms of pricing supply and demand may therefore force the two prices closer together.
The 570 is going to be 280-300 so I think these cards will straddle that price point.
I can't see a 6950 and 6970 using a 6800 PCB, the chip size differences alone would mean they couldn't share PCBs, which confirms even more that it's just a 6800 card and not a 6900.
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As said below, those are almost certainly just 68xx cards and a BS article, as per usual. Its not outside the realms of possibility that the 69xx cards will have one xfire connector, mostly because trifire/quadfire are such incredibly niche products and problematic, with poorer scaling that it would save a lot of headaches not having to support it, but I doubt they will.
They won't use the same pcb's, whats the 6870, 151W, the 6950 is likely pushing 200W, you'd be wasting money sticking the 6870 on a pcb capable of putting out 225W+ and wasting potential if you stick a 6950 pcb on something cheap for a midrange card.
It would make good business sense. Imagine Intel or AMD having to release a new motherboard socket for each revised processor they release? I cannot count how many processors of differing size, power, physical cores etc were released for socket 775 & 939. Imagine a graphics card PCB where you just drop it the next best GPU or GDDR5, with only minor revisions to power and support IC's needed. It could save (or make) a lot of money for ATI.
Its been done with MXM slots, the problem is the manufacture is limited to what the GPU mother board is capable of. The other issue is it becomes super confusing after a couple of generation.
A standardised slot is the best platform.
well here is some very high resolution shots of "109-c22237-00"
courtesy of techpowerup.com
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6870/images/front.jpg
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6870/images/back.jpg
as you can see its pretty packed already when a 6870 is fitted.
and there are no sodderpoints for a 8pin connector , or 2 xfire connectors
if we are to look at these older 69xx leaks , thats what the card has to have.
vr-zone 69xx pictures
there is no room for extra power management to accommodate for the larger cards , atleast i dont see any extra room for that. etc etc.
courtesy of techpowerup.com
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6870/images/front.jpg
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6870/images/back.jpg
as you can see its pretty packed already when a 6870 is fitted.
and there are no sodderpoints for a 8pin connector , or 2 xfire connectors
if we are to look at these older 69xx leaks , thats what the card has to have.
vr-zone 69xx pictures
there is no room for extra power management to accommodate for the larger cards , atleast i dont see any extra room for that. etc etc.