If you had 25,000 to spend, would you...

DM · 11 Dec 2010 at 21:51

Joshy said:
When did you turn French?

Come on, I haven't heard a DiamondMark moan for a while!

There is a certain logic in what the fella says although it is the exact opposite of my life strategy its hard to argue against someone who honestly believes what that chap is saying.

Dont confuse him with the arse hole that is just skint and kids himself Metros are no worse than Bentley because its all just transport after all and living in a caravan is no different from having 14 bedrooms because lets have it right a roof over ya head is a roof over ya head.

If someone is content to pass nothing on to their kids and dont want an easier life from 45 onwards with a few properties as a cushion there is no arguing with them, you see

Dale · 11 Dec 2010 at 21:58

Joshy said:
When did you turn French?

Come on, I haven't heard a DiamondMark moan for a while!

But they are £25k for a nearly standard car. £25k for a car that isn't all that fast, isn't that well speced and has an interior that looks like it is straight out of a 90s mini cab.

When I was 14 they were awesome but now I look at them and think that anyone who is willing to walk past 997 911s, 996 911 Turbos, Jag XJRs, AMG MERCs, M BMWs and the like and lay down £25k for one is officially mental.

Well, each entitled to their opinion :-)

(beauty of a forum! ) However, I'll just add the statement that for £25k it will be nowhere NEAR standard (of course unless you chose to source a standard car). You can find anything from 350-550 for that kind of money, and in great condition from a well loved home. In fact, my car was £24500 when I originally bought it, with 520bhp (flywheel) - The only thing wrong with it being that x2 of the (original) alloys needed a refurb for scuffing. Engine was perfect, and it was very very fast.
I added a few cosmetic additions during my ownership, some neat bits of carbon fibre here and there, and added a Top Secret rear diffuser (didn’t notice it make any difference to the drivability as I rarely got it to "those" speeds, but it looked great!)

As I said before, what's better for your money is entirely opinion (like you gave yours or course :-)

) and I loved everything about that car, especially the community. Ploughing across Europe to the Nordschleife with the rest of the Owners Club was the most epic experience I've ever had in a car (including being 18 in an A reg VW Polo where the rear legroom was expansive to say the least!! ! lol) - so I'll admit my opinion is biased.

iaind · 12 Dec 2010 at 10:55

Robbie G said:
Ah hi iaind. I take it you also live with your parents?

Nothing wrong with it.

Bought my flat at 22 and have about 40% equity now. Problem?

tom_nieto · 12 Dec 2010 at 12:08

I'd be looking at pork for this cash for sure. Depends on what you want I guess, but running costs would be significant. Saying that, surely you have to replace the front tyres on these hot hatches with alarming frequency anyway, and with 20" rims that can't come cheap!

For me 25k car = 2 doors, no roof.

scoobyrichuk · 12 Dec 2010 at 12:30

I love Jap crap so I wouldn't be able to resist this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2258679.htm

£3500 change left in the bank, could keep the car as it is and use that cash towards running costs or more likely buy a new turbo as that seems to be the only worthwhile mod missing from the car.

zetec452 · 12 Dec 2010 at 13:10

utajoker said:
if i had 25k i would buy this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2319476.htm

That's nice and something I'd buy. Either that or an Austin Healey 3000.

Participant · 12 Dec 2010 at 13:15

iaind said:
Problem?

lol

mjt · 12 Dec 2010 at 13:18

I'd track down an Alfa RZ/SZ

hurfdurf · 12 Dec 2010 at 16:15

Joshy said:
I dread to think what my mother would do to me if I brought home an uninvited "guest". It's got nothing to do with her treating me as a child, but more out of respect.

Say hello and make us breakfast in the morning, then enquire if she's a keeper once I've taken her home? And I still moved out at 18 as a student and got my own place at 22

Duke · 12 Dec 2010 at 16:31

BMW 335i

iaind · 12 Dec 2010 at 18:15

Robbie G said:
lol

A useful and insightful contribution, would read again, A+++

Anyway, if I had 25k lying around and still lived at home, of course I'd put it towards a house. I don't buy the nonsense about "allowing the bank to own your home" - you've started off owning 25k of it and you'd have to do something pretty stupid to lose that.

Otherwise you're allowing your landlord to own your home and your rent isnt building any further equity.

Pros and cons to everything, whether you rent buy or live with parents, I don't really care. But living with parents when you can afford to splurge 25k on a car because you're going to wait for them to pop their clogs is disgraceful - shows a complete lack of respect for your parents and yourself.

Fr0dders · 12 Dec 2010 at 19:10

iaind said:
shows a complete lack of respect for your parents and yourself.

not sure about that myself.

Speaking as a father, my child will always be my son. Doesn't matter how old he is, he's still my son and as such it was us that decided to bring him into the world, and it was us who chose the responsibility to look after him.

I don't believe that obligation ends the moment you turn 18. I had serious arguments about this with my parents. They did. They believed that at 18, if i was earning a living, i should be contributing 1/3 of all utility bills, 1/3 of all mortgage payments, 1/3 of all food bills, and furthermore contributing towards 1/3 of the household tasks such as cleaning the house, mowing the lawns, cleaning the windows etc..

We had massive rows over it, and i was constantly told that as a parent i'd feel the same. 10 years on and i don't. I don't see it as disrespectful at all, he's their son, and despite being 31 years of age, his parents still have a duty of care towards him. I totally understand not wanting to buy a house, to then live in it on your own after just coming back from abroad.

Don't agree with the living with them till they die and inherit the house statement however. As much as you have a duty to help your kids, and look after them no matter what their age, their comes a time when you're starting to take the ****. And saying you'll live with them till they die and leave you the house is past that line.

Joshy · 12 Dec 2010 at 19:19

I agree that you should always have a "duty" to help out your kids no matter what their age (I've fallen out with my father about it in the past) but even as a child I can see that there is a very clear and defined line when you're taking the mick.

Mooching off of them at 31 so that you can afford a flash car and effectively waiting for them to die so you can inherit the house is on the wrong side of the line.

iaind · 12 Dec 2010 at 19:23

Exactly. It's all about context - I know my parents would have me back in a heartbeat if I needed or wanted to.

I'm sure any parent would do the same, but if they were doing it in their 30s waiting for you to die, would you not be a bit offended?

If he can afford to buy and run a 25k car he can easily afford to sort his life out

DM · 12 Dec 2010 at 19:41

MrLOL said:
not sure about that myself.

Speaking as a father, my child will always be my son. Doesn't matter how old he is, he's still my son and as such it was us that decided to bring him into the world, and it was us who chose the responsibility to look after him.

I don't believe that obligation ends the moment you turn 18. I had serious arguments about this with my parents. They did. They believed that at 18, if i was earning a living, i should be contributing 1/3 of all utility bills, 1/3 of all mortgage payments, 1/3 of all food bills, and furthermore contributing towards 1/3 of the household tasks such as cleaning the house, mowing the lawns, cleaning the windows etc..

We had massive rows over it, and i was constantly told that as a parent i'd feel the same. 10 years on and i don't. I don't see it as disrespectful at all, he's their son, and despite being 31 years of age, his parents still have a duty of care towards him. I totally understand not wanting to buy a house, to then live in it on your own after just coming back from abroad.

Don't agree with the living with them till they die and inherit the house statement however. As much as you have a duty to help your kids, and look after them no matter what their age, their comes a time when you're starting to take the ****. And saying you'll live with them till they die and leave you the house is past that line.

Bang on, you dont stop looking after kids no matter how old or how much they drive you mad. As for the waiting to die bit, if thats a kids attitude he should have the brains to shut the **** up about it and wait patiently

Smokey26 · 12 Dec 2010 at 19:51

That blue VXR8 is well sweet. 25k is rather a lot to spend on a hatch.

Smokey26 · 12 Dec 2010 at 19:56

Joshy said:
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I wanted to support something Jap but something like a R34 GTR just doesn't make sense unless you're a die hard enthusiast. In this sort of company it is slow, dated, the interior is horrid and it is generally terrible value for money.

I could see the argument for a highly tuned R32/R33 that has had ££££££ spent on it previously bringing it upto standard, but a completely standard R34? No thanks .

This on the other hand...

http://pistonheads.com/sales/2298160.htm

Might not be great value for money but it sure would be great fun, but since when was it slow compared to a Focus RS? The interor may not be brilliant, but it's hardly any worse than a modern scooby or evo, but thats besides the point. From the outside i would say it looks amazing, so what if it's aged, thats just because all modern cars have the same round lines and look crap.

If i was single and dropping 25k on a car a nice R34 would be a big contender for me. Not really gonna drop in value much, such a sought after car.

[TW]Fox · 12 Dec 2010 at 21:07

iaind said:
Exactly. It's all about context - I know my parents would have me back in a heartbeat if I needed or wanted to.

I'm sure any parent would do the same, but if they were doing it in their 30s waiting for you to die, would you not be a bit offended?

If he can afford to buy and run a 25k car he can easily afford to sort his life out

I think his comments were absolutely disgraceful - if that truely is his plan, something is very wrong. But there are numerous reasons why he might not wish to get his own place. A lot of people find the idea of living alone completely unappealing, so if he's single and feels this way then until he finds somebody he wishes to share his life with whats the point? It only becomes an issue of he turns into a lazy sponger, which it certainly sounds like he might.

Fr0dders · 12 Dec 2010 at 21:13

[TW]Fox;17986981 said:
I think his comments were absolutely disgraceful - if that truely is his plan, something is very wrong. But there are numerous reasons why he might not wish to get his own place. A lot of people find the idea of living alone completely unappealing, so if he's single and feels this way then until he finds somebody he wishes to share his life with whats the point? It only becomes an issue of he turns into a lazy sponger, which it certainly sounds like he might.

Absolutely

the "i'll wait till they die and inherit the house" puts it firmly into sponger territory imo :/

iaind · 12 Dec 2010 at 21:33

[TW]Fox;17986981 said:
I think his comments were absolutely disgraceful - if that truely is his plan, something is very wrong. But there are numerous reasons why he might not wish to get his own place. A lot of people find the idea of living alone completely unappealing, so if he's single and feels this way then until he finds somebody he wishes to share his life with whats the point? It only becomes an issue of he turns into a lazy sponger, which it certainly sounds like he might.

I totally agree, if people want to stay at home then it's their choice and I dont see a problem with it, within reason. Personally, I love having my own space but I can see why it wouldn't appeal to everyone.

Not wanting to get your own place because you dont want to live alone, fair enough. Not wanting to get your own place because you'll have one when your parents die, shameful.

Personally I'd love it if they left the house to a cat or something