Disabled Protestor Jody McIntyre in Shameful BBC Interview

I thought the police were supposed to be held accountable under the same law as we are? If so surely this counts as unreasonable force. A police officer faced very serious charges for the death of Ian Tomlinson and may yet lose his job despite not being charged in the end, this was a much more violent action and yet so many more people are defending the police on this one. I guess if OCUK don't agree with the demonstration it's OK for the police to use violence eh?

At least give the investigation process a chance scorza. It has only just come to light.

I didn't like what I saw but I am mindful that I don't know the full picture and also what a canny political operator the complainant is.
 
The interview wasn't exactly the best work I've seen from the BBC, but I wouldn't consider it to be particularly shocking... The interviewee handled the questions quite well.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet... The guy does not have the ability to move himself in his wheelchair, requiring 3rd party assistance to get around (this was mentioned early in the interview). The interviewer then later asks him if he was throwing things at the police... It seems a little unlikely that someone with cerebral palsy, who can't even move himself around, would be capable of throwing missiles at riot police!

IIRC I was reading on another forum earlier where they'd found his blog - if it's the same guy, apparently he was boasting about how at millibanks his friends carried his wheelchair up to the roof, whilst he managed the stairs.

IF that is true then he is potentially not quite as "powerless" or "innocent" as he's trying to make out..
 
IIRC I was reading on another forum earlier where they'd found his blog - if it's the same guy, apparently he was boasting about how at millibanks his friends carried his wheelchair up to the roof, whilst he managed the stairs.

IF that is true then he is potentially not quite as "powerless" or "innocent" as he's trying to make out..

After reading some of his blog, its just confirmed my suspicion that this bloke is a complete tool. He was there for one reason, and one reason only - to cause trouble. Idiot.
 
One would assume such a system would discriminate on academic ability rather than the proposed system's discrimination on ability to pay. It's not for you or I to second guess what individual universities would do in hypothetical situations. It is worth pointing out that so far, the most vociferous opposition to the government's plans have come out of the top Universities, in particular Cambridge and Imperial.

Which group would be more inclined to receive the education required to compete in a system with very limited placements. Those with or those without. A system which limits places, limits opportunity and those with the necessary finances will be able to provide the best education and facilities to their children to ensure their academic future, would that be true of the vast majority of poorer families. I think not.

Cambridge University has not been vociferous at all. It made a statement concerning the need to reduce the funding gap between Science and Humanities subjects along with the need for shared responsibilities regarding funding between the individual and the pubic (i.e The Taxpayer). Both things I support. They made no statement in opposition or acceptance of the Tuition Fee proposals.





We've already had the discussion and it's clear that tuition fee increase massively benefits the privileged and a handful of the poorest students. I don't know how anyone could argue different, if everyone going to university had to take the loans out - essentially making it a graduate tax, I'd agree it would be an acceptable system. As it is however the privileged will just pay the tuition fees upfront, escaping a lifetime of debt and uncertainty.

You don't know because you don't seem to understand it. The Rich may be able to pay upfront (however there are moves to install a fee for doing so to offset any losses), but this is the case anyway with the current system and also with a graduate tax system also (as has been pointed out, not allowing payment up front in a graduate tax system would be illegal under human rights legislation or foreign student would need to be taxed also which is impossible).

Where is the uncertainty in a system which only charges if you earn enough money and then only 9% as a graduate tax, it has all the benefits of a graduate tax system with the added safety of both Fee and Repayment Period caps.

Also the debt is not burdensome in the way you suggest as you well know.

http://www.factsonfees.com/new-system.php


Let's not forget that the government are scrapping EMA too, making it even more difficult for poorer children to stay in education after 16

Not true either, research showed that over 80% of those in sixth form education would continue to study regardless of whether they received EMA or not. The Government is re-targeting the money to help those in most need.

However, I support the EMA and the way it encourages students to attend and if bribery is what it takes to in-still some sense of responsibility then the £520m spent on bribery is well spent.
 
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That interview just about sums up the BBC's/British medias coverage of any recent anti-policy protest.

I also agree with him that our police forces aggressive methods are such that they encourage more violence than would have otherwise occured, whether that's due to incompetence or some conspiracy to discredit any protests by branding them all as violent anarchists I'm not 100% sure... probably the latter given the heavily biased media coverage.
 
The way I see this is that education costs more than 3k a year. so the government are putting the price up. it's either that or subsidse it which we can't afford and in all honesty don't need.

fees need to be increased and 3x is a bit drastic but students still get a loan so now they have to calculate that this degree will have to increase their future wage to make it worth while.

Sounds fair enough to me. as it is now uni is like school where everyone goes. Nice but no point if there are no jobs and the course/grade/uni are more important than just going.

Still a far cry from the awful system they have in the USA where your parents job basically dictates your job as if they can't afford uni then you don't go and obviously a lot better than most of the world.


Him and his brother were where they shouldn't have been and got moved along. wheelchair or not doesn't matter. also I see nothing wrong with the interview.
 
I also agree with him that our police forces aggressive methods are such that they encourage more violence than would have otherwise occured, whether that's due to incompetence or some conspiracy to discredit any protests by branding them all as violent anarchists I'm not 100% sure... probably the latter given the heavily biased media coverage.

Or do you think, just maybe, that our police become more aggressive as the level of threat to them increases? I certainly didn't see the police encouraging violence, there was only one side doing that.
 
The only thing wrong with the interview was the interviewer being a moron and asking twice if he was throwing rocks or anything at the police when he clearly told him he can barely move his arms.

What an idiot presenter.
 
"Is it true you were rolling towards the police officers?"

OH GOD!!!!!!

Hmmm.

Think of it like this, there is a potentially dangerous situation developing where tensions are high and there are hundreds of people whose intentions are unknown.

Along comes two people, one in a wheelchair, the other pushing it. The Police ask the two to cease and return to the crowd, they keep coming, they ask them to stop again, they refuse and keep moving forward. What are the Police supposed to do, ignore them. Of course not. The Police gave ample warning which was ignored so they removed any potential incident by removing the instigators.

What would you do if the Police asked you to stop, would you continue toward them knowing that you are likely to be forcibly removed if you do not do so.

The fault lies entirely with the self confessed revolutionary Jody McIntyre and his brother. He needs to accept personal responsibility for his own actions.
 
i fail to see how the police can justify this as reasonable force!

In my line of work in which I carry power of a constable there is no way in hell you would get away with doing what the met police thugs are doing here, even if he was refusing a direct order its still not reasonable in the circumstances!
 
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