Sudanese woman whipped in the street for wearing trousers

doofer said:
They probably think the same sort of thing about us. It is THEIR Country with THEIR Laws, nothing to do with us, let them get on with it, the woman lived there so knew the Laws, she chose to ignore them, she suffered the consequences.

We get outraged when other Cultures try to enforce their views on us, so why would us trying to force our views on them be any different to them?
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Completely agree.

That's not to say I think things like this are right, in any way, but ultimately - It is not our business. Us forcing our views, beliefs and laws on a 'barbaric' country would be no different from them forcing Sharia law on us.

Where there is a problem though, is the fact that those in power are not there legitimately, and don't have the support of the people.. Such as in Sudan. Still, that is an entirely different issue.
 
ProOrWhat said:
Ironic how some people reckon Islam is about peace. When are they going to wake up...
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Missed this little gem. You're an idiot. Because of your moronic statement, I'm going to go ahead and assume that you'll have a hard time following a lengthy post of words.. So, I'll go ahead and give you a picture.

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doofer said:
They probably think the same sort of thing about us. It is THEIR Country with THEIR Laws, nothing to do with us, let them get on with it, the woman lived there so knew the Laws, she chose to ignore them, she suffered the consequences.
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This sort of opinion actually disgusts me. Just because something is law doesn't make it right. 50 years ago in this country as somebody else has pointed out homosexuality was illegal. Was it morally right to punish people for it? No, it was unacceptable.

Just like this was unacceptable.

If tommorrow the age of constent was abolished by law would you suddenly think peadophilia was acceptable because its 'the law'?

These people are backward and that woman is clearly suffering as a result of a petty crime. We wouldnt even treat murderes like that.
 
Islam is simply a religion, it doesn't promote or demote violence any more or less than other religions, they are all pretty much the same at the end of the day. Especially Christianity, Islam and Judaism.

Same with race. Do you honestly think people from the middle East are genetically predisposed to be violent and cruel or are they just like what we were like a few hundered years ago.


It's just how people interprit religion, there is always some nutters in every religion that goes too far and on top of that again, governments/dictators twisting it to be useful for them.

It is wrong and I would ideally like these places to work it out for themselves and at least we should be applying political pressure to speed things up.


We only invade if they are a threat to us or have oil it seems, but then getting rid of these nutters incharge isn't the worst idea which is why I don't really disagree with Iraq, there were no WMDs but Iraq and the world is a better place withou Saddam. But then you can't use that as an excuse as there are loads of horrible countries that need sorting out, Africa, NK, rest of the middle east. plenty of hell holes left sadly.

And lets face it we have it pretty cushy in Europe. In a world where superpowers like the USA and China are pretty poor on human rights it is obvious we are fooked for a long time yet.

The world needs to unite one way or another, but with these things called Nukes being invented the time for wars is over really, although it might be easier to simply take over these places we are just going to have to make friends with most of them unless they pose an immediate threat.
 
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Lets invade and when we win we shall whip all the blokes who think whipping was legit and see how they like it and let all the women have steal whips. :D
 
[TW]Fox;18017146 said:
This sort of opinion actually disgusts me. Just because something is law doesn't make it right. 50 years ago in this country as somebody else has pointed out homosexuality was illegal. Was it morally right to punish people for it? No, it was unacceptable.

Just like this was unacceptable.

If tommorrow the age of constent was abolished by law would you suddenly think peadophilia was acceptable because its 'the law'?

These people are backward and that woman is clearly suffering as a result of a petty crime. We wouldnt even treat murderes like that.
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Meanwhile, almost 50 Posts EARLIER

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=18009475&postcount=37

Put down your Car Magazines, close Google and read the whole Thread, you can still listen to Chairman Clarkson if you wish...

Waits for all the BMW sigs to arrive...:rolleyes:
 
doofer said:
Meanwhile, almost 50 Posts EARLIER

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=18009475&postcount=37
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So what? I don't care if you agree with the punishment or not, I care that you beleive people should be allowed to just 'get on with it'. I stand by my opinion. Your opinion is that we should leave these people to do as they please, mine is that your opinion is wrong.

You are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine.

Quite why that deserves your next paragraph...

Put down your Car Magazines, close Google and read the whole Thread, you can still listen to Chairman Clarkson if you wish...

Waits for all the BMW sigs to arrive...:rolleyes:
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What on earth are you babbling about, this is a thread about the Middle East not cars or BMW's :confused:
 
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MotherMayI said:
Missed this little gem. You're an idiot. Because of your moronic statement, I'm going to go ahead and assume that you'll have a hard time following a lengthy post of words.. So, I'll go ahead and give you a picture.

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Well I think you've got this slightly wrong... at no point did he say that he was a Christian?

And for some perspective, to my knowledge there are no Christian states that currently employ laws similar to what we're talking about here. Christianity has developed since those 'dark ages', but the same can't be said about Islam.

It seems reasonable to me - and the majority of posters in this thread - that a society which did in the past have a lot of things wrong with it (the crusades being a perfect case in point) but has now put that right, IS in a position to point out that other countries that have not developed in such a way to improve humanitarian rights, should do.
 
At the end of the day, we all have a responsibility to each other.

To let other human beings be treated this way is just selfish.
 
doofer said:
They probably think the same sort of thing about us. It is THEIR Country with THEIR Laws, nothing to do with us, let them get on with it, the woman lived there so knew the Laws, she chose to ignore them, she suffered the consequences.

We get outraged when other Cultures try to enforce their views on us, so why would us trying to force our views on them be any different to them?
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Except when they come here here they do enforce their law.

Its not about law its about human rights.

If a girl is raped over there, its law that her father or brother murders her for "shaming the family", its not quite that clear cut but its something along those lines.
 
doofer said:
They probably think the same sort of thing about us. It is THEIR Country with THEIR Laws, nothing to do with us, let them get on with it, the woman lived there so knew the Laws, she chose to ignore them, she suffered the consequences.

We get outraged when other Cultures try to enforce their views on us, so why would us trying to force our views on them be any different to them?
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I assume you didn't agree with us invading Germany then?
 
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