Best TV 50" plus approx £1500 (without lots of issues)

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It seems impossible to find a TV where all the bang for buck is the quality of the display itself!

I do not care about internet TV, built in freeview hd or anything else similar as I have a HTPC connected.

Do not want a 3D set over a better quality display.

Do not care about built in speakers quality.

And is it so hard to have a TV without issues like makes buzzing sounds or red ghosting or all the other random things I keep reading about (have spent weeks looking and they all seem to have faults).

Hope someone can point me in the right direction!

Thanks!

:p
 
They all have there quirks mate. I spent weeks demoing and reading up before deciding on the panny V20. Like you I wasn't bothered with 3D. I just wanted the best IQ I could get. And right now IMO that is what the V20 gives you

There are quite a few common issues but if you get a good one it's a stunner. If you get a bad one send the bugger back :)
 
Does yours make a buzzing sound? If so how loud is it?

Have you got yours connected to a HTPC which you use to browse the net etc? How is reading text on it? Do you have any issues with screen burn?

Ps what problems if any have you had with your set?

Thanks
 
All big screens will buzz slightly when they are displaying very bright screen (solid white screen for example). Mine is only ever noticable when silent or next to no volume on. Certainly not loud enough to hear in normal use and I sit around 8 foot from it.

I've had quite a few htpc's and it works great with them. Currently using a boxee box instead though. Viewing text is spot on. Very sharp and stable.

The only issue I have with mine is every now and again (sometimes once or twice in a film) if the film is in widescreen you may see the issue called 'floating blacks'. The black bars will lighten ever so slightly for a flash of sec. Very rare and 99% of films it never rears it's head.

Other than that the tv is fantastic. The image quality has so much depth compared to other sets I viewed. Really puts others to shame. Especially the black levels.
 
Okay I google'd floating blacks and that lead me to youtube it.. and then that had some comments about plamas :eek:

Buzzing noises,
popping sounds,
phosphor lag,
decrease in blacks over time
floating blacks,
worrying about burn in,
Breaking in,
reflective screens,
floating blacks ect

I have seen the 50" v20 you mentioned for £1200 and that does indeed seem like a very reasonable price! And that is the one I am now swaying towards.

How much for would I have to spend to get a LCD/LED of similar quality to the v20?
 
I have a G20 and while not quite as good as a V20, my advice is the same as above. Buy a V20 from a reputable dealer and if you have any issues just return it. Of all of the issues you list, only excessive buzz is really an issue and my retailer replaced my first set because it was too loud.
 
I bought mine from a online shop that offered a no quibbbles 30 day guarentee. I made sure I actually spoke to them first to make sure I could return without question.
 
Okay I google'd floating blacks and that lead me to youtube it.. and then that had some comments about plamas :eek:

Buzzing noises,
popping sounds,
phosphor lag,
decrease in blacks over time
floating blacks,
worrying about burn in,
Breaking in,
reflective screens,
floating blacks ect

I have seen the 50" v20 you mentioned for £1200 and that does indeed seem like a very reasonable price! And that is the one I am now swaying towards.

How much for would I have to spend to get a LCD/LED of similar quality to the v20?

Half of those are a load of err baubles mate. I have had serveral plasmas. I tend to go for Pannys as they just dont seem to have the image retention/screen burn issues that can effect plasmas.

Take a look round some decent dealers. You may like the LCDs. I spent weeks walking round loads of em and the only decent LCD I could find was a £3000 plus sony. Personally I prefer the look of a plasma. LCDs can look clear and sharp but they just dont have the black levels of a decent plasma.
 
Another happy 50" v20 owner here. There is a slight buzz I think, but it really isn't noticeable in normal use. The picture is excellent.
 
There V20 is an excellent buy, Kuro tech! If only I could afford one and Richer Sounds stocked them! :rolleyes:
 
I was put off getting the v20 after a guy from work said he had flickering problems with his set something about 50 hz. He then said all of this years models have the same problems :confused: Just saying, if I was you I would do more research first, maybe even wait till next years sets :)
 
IMHO, your money would be best spent on either a second hand Pioneer Kuro or a 2008 Panasonic Plasma.

The V10/V20 blacks do rise quite a bit overtime to the point where it looked a fair bit worse than the PZ80. The '20 series seem to have more faults than the previous year.

Then again, you could wait to see what the 2011 models are like
 
I was put off getting the v20 after a guy from work said he had flickering problems with his set something about 50 hz. He then said all of this years models have the same problems :confused: Just saying, if I was you I would do more research first, maybe even wait till next years sets :)

Yes, flickering started with the 2009 models and got worse this year :rolleyes:
 
IMHO, your money would be best spent on either a second hand Pioneer Kuro or a 2008 Panasonic Plasma.

The V10/V20 blacks do rise quite a bit overtime to the point where it looked a fair bit worse than the PZ80. The '20 series seem to have more faults than the previous year.

Then again, you could wait to see what the 2011 models are like

Only the V10 have the issues with black levels getting worse
 
It is a tricky one. As ive said before every single TV out these days has some faults (yes even the almight Kuros, just read the forums).

Reading forums can only make matters worse in some cases. The amount of times I was all set to buy my V20 then read another bad post which put me off was untrue. But every time I went and saw the TVs in the flesh, the plasmas and in particular the G20 and V20 always looked just so much better then anything else there. Thats why after weeks of faffing, I bit the bullet and bought it. Yes its not perfect, and if you look for faults they are some. But I am prob the most picky person I know regarding AV stuff, and I still rate this set as the best I have ever owned. Give it a decent source and the picture is stunning. The Kuro I saw a couple of years ago is the only other set I have seen in the same league.

You could hold out for next years TVs, there not long off but I just dont think next year is going to bring fault free TVs. They went when CRTs dies out.
 
IMHO, your money would be best spent on either a second hand Pioneer Kuro or a 2008 Panasonic Plasma.

The V10/V20 blacks do rise quite a bit overtime to the point where it looked a fair bit worse than the PZ80. The '20 series seem to have more faults than the previous year.

Then again, you could wait to see what the 2011 models are like

I don't agree with that, both the V10 and V20 have Kuro tech in them and has previously mentioned it is only the cheaper V10 that has those issues.

Buying a 2nd hand Kuro would be a risk and things have moved on plenty from 2008.
 
I would certainly consider a well sourced 2nd hand Kuro, quite a few AV dealers still use them for display purposes and you see them for sale occasionally.
 
Okay I google'd floating blacks and that lead me to youtube it.. and then that had some comments about plamas :eek:

Buzzing noises,
popping sounds,
phosphor lag,
decrease in blacks over time
floating blacks,
worrying about burn in,
Breaking in,
reflective screens,
floating blacks ect

thats the panasonic covered now next model :D
 
thanks for all the help!

Pioneer: I know I don't really want to spend £1000's on two year old TV from a company that does not exist anymore ... no matter how black the black is :p

v20: I also know what I am like, hence the thread title ... sending TVs back, having to live with design faults and then fearing other common issues that may crop up is just not me.

I think it will have to be a Plasma which is very good and has been praised for it's lack of faults or a LCD/LED which is biting at the heals of a plasma like the v20 but without the plama/panny problems.

It may not exist yet and if it doesn't then I will just have to wait till next year :)
 
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