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pingwing said:
Now the 3rd with the rx7 is the WORST thing iv ever driven!! It does no handle, how has anyone made it break stably and got it to power out of corners without spinning!?!?!? :(
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It's a lovely handling car, just good throttle control and you get it turning on the throttle beautifully, and then once you're in front you can mess about drifting for the last lap :p

ps3ud0 said:
Cheers man that helped quite a bit - got me into the 1.20s that I needed. Looks like the lead car does it in 6.42 so you really need low 1.20s after the first lap to make it count. Seems impossible unless you do a very low 1.21 first lap and all other laps after that are under 1.20.5 which is really hard near the end when you just dont have enough cars in front to slipstream against - if you arent 2nd by first hairpin of lap 4 I dont think you can do it (next spilt needs to be sub 10s)...

Got to 1.7s of the lead car on the last spilt (just before last hairpin) but didnt realise it had superior acceleration so got 2nd as I just wasnt near enough to slipstream.

Then began the repeated restarts (its 3am so Ive been at this race for hours :/) and finally did it :D. Guess what my trick was? To **** up that lead car into the last hairpin - just kamikazed it and took it out and won! GT5 just makes winning too hard so knew Id never get a better chance...

People complain about the Top Gear events - that Fiat 500 seasonal is pad breaking with the concentration needed. You need to watch your speedo/revs and make sure you hit the corner after the first hairpin and the last hairpin perfectly as effectively long straights follow them. Another tip - minimise gforce so its under 1 as much as you can - you wont accelerate otherwise (dunlop 'chicane' is a good example)

That just cant be won without a custom transmission...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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It's 'easily' doable without the custom transmission, I can't remember what my first lap is but I could do 1:20.1-2's without a draft and without the custom transmission, last/best lap was a 1:19.980 with a draft from the leader down the back straight before flying around the outside of him in the final corner...

The main problem seems to be getting the pace right for the first ~2 laps in order to catch the cars at the 'nice' points to overtake, and knowing their annoying little habits like the first Ford KA that brakes like a n00b in the last corner, not good for the laptime if you just smash into the back of him rather than going around the outside :p

The only seasonal event that *needs* the custom transmission (imo) is the muscle car just so you can outstrip everyone else by ~30mph down the straight :)
 
bigjimmyauk said:
I used the ZR-1 race modified to do both events in the like the wind series but belive me on the daytona road course the Minolta car was half a second of my ass every lap. You should be able to take the corners on the oval at circa 200MPH with all aids off just throw it in hard and let the slip of the rear carry you round the corner and you'll come out wide on the exit. Definately helps to have a wheel tho rather than a DS3
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I tried the Daytona track in Like The Wind yesterday with a modded ZR-1 and got raped, I just can't setup the car right, it's either understeering into a corner or oversteering out of a corner :(
 
bigjimmyauk said:
which track the road track or the oval
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The road track, I always mess up the first corner where you need to brake when turning left and in the twisty part the other 'Group C' cars are just way faster.

Maybe I need to try with TC on but I tend to avoid that as it slows the car down massively.
 
pingwing said:
Massively, without it you have so little acceleration on a track where the top speed is about 75 in that car anyway... There's a post a page or two back with all the details but basically you need to get the gears as close as possible and get the bhp and weight on the limit (with all the transmission upgrades done) to get there... (I think a manual gear box helps too to get the last corner right)

You'll need to try and not drop below 34-35mph at any point in the track and be smooth/consistent to get to the front, all you need to be is about a second off first at the last split before the race end and hammer them on the back corner at 70 odd mph as the ai goes to around 60-65 ;)
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Weird, I was in first place by the beginning of the last lap, easily came first, took me a few attempts mind but just brake late, keep power on round corners.

I modded with transmission and sports intake.
 
Dutch Guy said:
The road track, I always mess up the first corner where you need to brake when turning left and in the twisty part the other 'Group C' cars are just way faster.

Maybe I need to try with TC on but I tend to avoid that as it slows the car down massively.
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The best tactic for that corner I find is to brake in a straight line, before you turn in to scrub a lot of speed off, then brake further to slow it completely as you approach the corner like you are doing now. Messing with the brake balance could also solve it but I forget which way you're supposed to shift it, my mind is telling me the majority ofbthe braking should be done with the rear wheels for that corner to help keep it stable.

Also check your aero sliders are maxed and out you're on the softest tyres you can be ;)
 
If you increase the braking to the rear wheels you'll need to use throttle to stop them locking under heavy braking, for stability you want more at the front and just don't lock them...
 
Completed all the 5 seasonal event races with gold. It was a late one last night :D

Whats with the time & drift trial events? Do you get xp and cash when it closes and calculates your online ranking?
 
I bought the ZR1, RM'd it, tuned everything else and I just cannot get on with it. It just snakes around the track, no matter how careful I try to be.

I'm assuming I've tuned it wrong as people are winning things well with it. Maybe it's the other settings (like TC or ABS) I need to change?

I'm better off in my ~800bhp Skyline, accelerating rapidly to first (which the 'Vette just doesn't match), then being a blocking little turd the whole race.

This is on the All Stars Championship btw.
 
Aww, just checked out the price of a DFGT on amazon (I checked this wheel a while ago as well) and it's gone up in price by nearly £25 :| Not pleased, I could've had it well cheaper if I'd bought it at the time. Guess it's time to shop about and see if it's cheaper elsewhere.
 
Syph said:
I bought the ZR1, RM'd it, tuned everything else and I just cannot get on with it. It just snakes around the track, no matter how careful I try to be.

I'm assuming I've tuned it wrong as people are winning things well with it. Maybe it's the other settings (like TC or ABS) I need to change?

I'm better off in my ~800bhp Skyline, accelerating rapidly to first (which the 'Vette just doesn't match), then being a blocking little turd the whole race.

This is on the All Stars Championship btw.
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My ZR1 was a joke until I bought racing soft tyres, then it became usable.

I don't use TC with it and ABS is set to 1.

Have you put the downforce on max?
 
Radiosity said:
Aww, just checked out the price of a DFGT on amazon (I checked this wheel a while ago as well) and it's gone up in price by nearly £25 :| Not pleased, I could've had it well cheaper if I'd bought it at the time. Guess it's time to shop about and see if it's cheaper elsewhere.
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Have a look at the highstreet store that sells all its stuff from a catalogue, I got one in September for £80 :)
 
Sp00n said:
My ZR1 was a joke until I bought racing soft tyres, then it became usable.

I don't use TC with it and ABS is set to 1.

Have you put the downforce on max?
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I've got the RSTs on it, I think I've got TC off and ABS to 1 too. Perhaps it is the downforce I need to play with.

Even then, its acceleration is poor compared to the heavier, less-BHP Skyline which seems odd. Does 4WD make so much difference?
 
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Syph said:
I've got the RCTs on it, I think I've got TC off and ABS to 1 too. Perhaps it is the downforce I need to play with.

Even then, it's acceleration is poor compared to the heavier, less-BHP Skyline which seems odd. Does 4WD make so much difference?
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In terms of straight line performance it makes a huge difference, it also makes it handle like a pig in the corners so you pays your money and makes your choices :p
 
I suppose that makes sense, as it does like to go sideways round the bends. But then it is a lot of fun. I just find any throttle on the ZR1 makes it twist and cornering just spins it out. Even if the Skyline is a drifter's best mate, I find it more controllable!
 
Syph said:
I've got the RSTs on it, I think I've got TC off and ABS to 1 too. Perhaps it is the downforce I need to play with.

Even then, its acceleration is poor compared to the heavier, less-BHP Skyline which seems odd. Does 4WD make so much difference?
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It's not the BHP but the torque that dictates acceleration.
 
Syph said:
I suppose that makes sense, as it does like to go sideways round the bends. But then it is a lot of fun. I just find any throttle on the ZR1 makes it twist and cornering just spins it out. Even if the Skyline is a drifer's best mate, I find it more controllable!
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Skylines are terrible for drifting, someone's been watch to many Fast and Furious movies :P (One is too many)

They require completely different driving styles, with the ZR1 you have to, above all else, be smooth and wait until you get the car relatively straight and pointed in the direct you want to go, THEN plant you foot. As you get used to it you can apply part throttle earlier and earlier. The skyline on the other hand allows you to plant your foot whenever you want and all you get is nice safe understeer, then lots of acceleration. Once you get used to the ZR1 you should be faster in it

bigjimmyauk said:
It's not the BHP but the torque that dictates acceleration.
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Not strictly true, its a combination of both and many other variables [/pedant] [/rant] :p
 
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