Considering a car change in March-April next year and looking to spend upto 45k

Audi warranty on a tuned car? How about.. no :p

The thing is that £45k is a lot of money. It would need to be an exceptional car, something you've always dreamed about, something that sets your heart racing even thinking about it. Something exotic.

ie, not an Audi TT.

If you just want a capable, fast car then there is simply no need to spend £45k.

A £45k car must be a special car.
 
The TT-RS is probably going to give you the biggest depreciation hit out of the lot.

If you want something truly special to drive - like I said a GT2 :)

http://pistonheads.com/sales/787889.htm

580BHP which will probably see you to 60 in around 3.5 seconds (Standard "full fat" GT2 does it in 3.9 seconds with 490bhp) - plus it'll knock the socks off most things on track.
 
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[TW]Fox;18061295 said:
Audi warranty on a tuned car? How about.. no :p

The thing is that £45k is a lot of money. It would need to be an exceptional car, something you've always dreamed about, something that sets your heart racing even thinking about it. Something exotic.

ie, not an Audi TT.

If you just want a capable, fast car then there is simply no need to spend £45k.

A £45k car must be a special car.
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From what I read last night, the remap is covered under warranty. :)
Not sure about exhaust and additional stage 2 work, though I believe REVO do cover warranty as well. Its obviously one of those things you clear with your dealer if your gonna mod.

For example Mitsubishi are perfectly fine with me fitting an exhaust stating my warranty still stands on engine/transmission, but any claims on the exhaust they won't cover.

If I got a TT RS I'd not pay 45k, I'd set my target at 35k to lessen depreciation so I'd be any dealerships worse nightmare, but I normally get what I want I am just a tough customer, but my job is a buyer I also buy all my personal belonging aggressively too.

Still I agree a TT RS is not special, but it could be a car I'd enjoy and a very capable one possibly.

However I am gonna take Diamondmark up on his offer of a loan 997 at some point because 35k also gets a rather nice 997 C2S. :)


If I was to purchase with my heart right now I'd buy an Aston V8 or Z06 but when brain comes to play it say Aston could cost fortune to run and not be as good as I think it is.

Then Corvette is big and as such I'd have to change my route to work (boring route) no longer backroads due to how wide it is and the back roads I take are narrow, too narrow to be taking a LHD supercar.

So the ones my heart wants have serious dis-advantages.

My brain is saying TT RS or Porsche 997 C2S or simply keep the EVO X and run it for another year.

The in the middle option is I guess the GTR, but the running cost truly scare me, they are epic, more so than any other car here. :(
 
MikeHiow said:
The TT-RS is probably going to give you the biggest depreciation hit out of the lot.

If you want something truly special to drive - like I said a GT2 :)

http://pistonheads.com/sales/787889.htm

580BHP which will probably see you to 60 in around 3.5 seconds (Standard "full fat" GT2 does it in 3.9 seconds with 490bhp) - plus it'll knock the socks off most things on track.
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Already stated I don't want a 996!!

The 997 is better than a 996 in everyway, such a better car to drive, anyone who has driven both will say this and many people would choose a 997 C2/4S over a 996 Turbo or GT3/GT2 as an everyday car.

I want a well put together car that drives very well, the 997 I know does them superbly well, the 996 was awsome but the 997 is just so much better and far newer which means OPC warranty. :)
 
Gibbo said:
Then Corvette is big and as such I'd have to change my route to work (boring route) no longer backroads due to how wide it is and the back roads I take are narrow, too narrow to be taking a LHD supercar.
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The Z06 is only 76 inches wide. Stop being such a poof and get one bought :)
 
Personally, I'd be tempted to just drop some money on the Evo to make it circa 500bhp.

I am not sure why you have no feeling towards the GTR. Yes it is very expensive to run, but the driving emotion behind it is practically the same as the Evo. E.g. Electronics sort it all out for you. If you enjoy the Evo, I can only imagine you enjoying the GTR even more so.

However, if I was in the position to spend £45k on a car, I don't think I would spend that much. I would probably spend around £30k and have a similarly fast car as a £45k car, with the spare moneys to mod/maintain etc.
 
Telescopi said:
It's all relative.
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In what sense?

It is a still an Audi. It shares its Platform with Škoda Yeti and Volkswagen Golf. It was not built to be an as special car as say a 911 or Z06 Corvette or Aston Martian.

I think the only reason it is even being considered is because it is relatively light, tunable and 4WD. Last time I checked Gibbo already had a car built with that recipe sitting on his drive. After having a poke about in a TTRS (no, I didn't drive it) I can't imagine anyone finding it much of an "occasion".

It's a typical VAG product. That'd be enough to stop me spending that sort of money on one.
 
Sorry, must have missed that.

When you stated you'd rather a CSL over an E92 M3 - I assumed it was driving experience you were after rather than something more daily driver.
 
Joshy said:
In what sense?

It is a still an Audi. It shares its Platform with Škoda Yeti and Volkswagen Golf. It was not built to be an as special car as say a 911 or Z06 Corvette or Aston Martian.

I think the only reason it is even being considered is because it is relatively light, tunable and 4WD. Last time I checked Gibbo already had a car built with that recipe sitting on his drive. After having a poke about in a TTRS (no, I didn't drive it) I can't imagine anyone finding it much of an "occasion".

It's a typical VAG product. That'd be enough to stop me spending that sort of money on one.
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This. I hate to admit that I quite like VAG cars but the TTRS is the odd one out of that list. I'd never drop anything close to £40K on one.
 
ScoobyDoo69 said:
Personally, I'd be tempted to just drop some money on the Evo to make it circa 500bhp.

I am not sure why you have no feeling towards the GTR. Yes it is very expensive to run, but the driving emotion behind it is practically the same as the Evo. E.g. Electronics sort it all out for you. If you enjoy the Evo, I can only imagine you enjoying the GTR even more so.

However, if I was in the position to spend £45k on a car, I don't think I would spend that much. I would probably spend around £30k and have a similarly fast car as a £45k car, with the spare moneys to mod/maintain etc.
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I got to drive KP's on quite a lengthy car meet as he was hung over, he had a GTR with the downpipe and to drive yes it was good, but I find the EVO X more fun than a GTR its more chuckable, pointier etc. Just like a Scoob Spec C would be. The GTR does some things better, off the mark its stupidly quick and quick everywhere else too, it sounds better, it looks more special, its a very special car, no doubting that.

But for me I enjoy driving an EVO X or a Spec C more, I preferre the more chuckable and lighter nimble car I guess even though on the road the GTR is actually quicker and probably more capable.

So make of that logic what you will haha. :p
 
[TW]Fox;18061489 said:
In the 'Its only £45k, we are loaded, so nerrr' sense I would imagine :p
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In the sense that it's relative, I normally buy cars in the region of 5k and 25k would have to be very special for me.

Gibbo has bought in the 25k region and 45k would need to be very special for him too.

Yet there are people in this thread who realise 45k isn't really that much at this end of the market. These are the best people to listen to as they can be a bit more objective about what owning one of these cars will entail.

Spending what is a lot of money for you, is indeed a big decision, but stretching for something 'special' can be a big mistake as no matter how much of a bargain you get when you buy the servicing and maintenance won't be.
 
If it was my money I would have a serious look at the Lotus Evora. Can pick up one of the early models (either 2+0 or 2+2 config) for under £45k (now the 'S' version is out I can see the N/A car dropping in value).

Then add a supercharger later either from Lotus or aftermarket to bring it up to 380 - 400bhp with exhaust etc. There are a few tuning options becoming available for these cars now as well.

Build quality is pretty good, it is useable everyday, better handling than most if not all the other suggestions & driver involvement/feedback is one of the core ingredients in any Lotus.

Definitely worth a look in my view but failing that the Z06 would be next on the list as Porsche just don't excite me.
 
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Sorry its a vauxhall, V8 Supercharged 560bhp though.. :D:D
 
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Gibbo said:
Still question is out on how well do they handle
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Complete guess as I've never driven one, but my guess is they have the usual VAG/Haldex traits of grip grip grip and more grip, then understeer.

I do appreciate I may be talking out of my arse though.
 
Id probably go with the TTRS too out of all of those. I love that car, I dont care that it shares the same platform as a golf. The 5 cyl engine note, tunability, chuckability and looks win it for me. Plus it wouldnt cost the earth to run unlike most of the other cars on there.
 
Telescopi said:
In the sense that it's relative, I normally buy cars in the region of 5k and 25k would have to be very special for me.
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And I normally buy cars worth slightly less than the sum total of change you'd find in between the cushions of your sofa, that still doesn't stop me from finding a good 95% of VAG products uninspiring and a little bit boring.

I'm sure I'm up for a lynching here, but I didn't find even the R8 that special in terms of Interior. It still had the featureless grey slab of plastic that they call a dashboard which genuinely prevents me from seriously considering VAG products that are £5k second hand, in what is considered to be a supercar it'd have me running for the door in seconds. At this is in the top dog of the Audi range.

The TTRS made such a little impression on me I actually have to strain my mind to even remember it. That is not good enough for a car that finds itself on the shortlist with Porsche 911s and Aston Martians. Of course things might all change on the road but as far as I'm concerned that is too late. A £45k car to me needs to be just as special at 0MPH in traffic as it is at 90MPH on a deserted B Road.
 
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