do console games ever look better than pc to you?


Some points I disagree with, some I don't. It's the wonderfully fatuous comparison between PC and console gamers at the start of your post that makes me question the rest of what you say - nice, sweeping generalisation you've got there. There's no question that PC gaming is the more elitist sector, your comparison's too gormless and limited to hold any validity - Across the whole spectrum of my gaming friends, the only people who ascribe to your image of a PC gamer are those who won't actually game much, but spend more of their time programming for fun. It'd be as accurate to say that, since consoles have become the staple meat of council estate families, people who play consoles are knuckle-dragging, cretinous evolutionary throwbacks who need to sit farther from their screen so they can see it past their eyebrow ridge. Funnily enough, most of my console-playing friends don't fit into this classification, either.

I'd agree with the point you raised about MW2, because the PC corner isn't having a very big impact on the gaming market any more. I'd disagree with your use of MW2 as an example in that sense though, for one core reason - MW2 was a victim of that influence, not an example. The multiplayer aspect was organised like a console game, and PC gamers hated it. It was organised like a console game, as are so many other titles, because consoles are more popular (plus some crap about piracy, which is just as rampant on consoles). Dragon Age is having a sequal released soon, and that's going to be worthless on PC - all indications say that they've listened to the console market's complaints that it was too difficult or too complicated to play, and applied the same factors to the PC version. PC gamers won't be able to play the game isometrically - it'll be 3rd person view, and that's the only choice you have. Not that you'll need a more strategic view - the game is going to be such a brainfart that you'd have to struggle to fail. Conjecture, perhaps - but we've seen it happen before. Gothic is a prime example.

As far as PCs being an investment and consoles being generic and disposable, I couldn't agree more. I'm a PC gamer, and even though my customisation's minimal, it does feel strange playing on someone else's setup - and I hate people touching mine. To that extent, if you want that personalised experience, PC is the better option - and you're going to have to pay for it. Personally, I play games in my solo time, and do most of my socialising out of the house, so I don't need a console to balance my social life with my gaming. You make good points, but being bilious and unpleasantly insulting about it detracts from their credibility.
 
If you have something to say then say it instead of the ORLY nonesense.;)

It's a ridiculous statement either way. There is no reason a PC or console game should be more immersive one way or another, as so much is dependent on individual setups, the game in question, the player, etc.
 
My experience is based on nearly 14 years of PC gaming. I also have met many people on line, many whom I still call friends, some who I have met at meet-ups some who I have met one to one. The spectrum is wide, ranging from 40 something professionals to teen students. I dont think that my analogy is too far off the mark. The majority of PC gamers that I know and have met are slightly techy introverts. They very often enjoy the solace of gaming. The MMO crowd were (note were) mainly the D&D crowd who found technology, the CS gamers tended to be slightly more 'wired', but still quite introvert people.

Whether my generalisation is gormless (lacking intellectual acuity) I question, it is based upon personal experience, as I have stated above, (and to a certain degree, my mindset at the time of my pc gaming experience). Whether I am gormless, make up you own mind, I am post grad qualified and work as a senior manager in a highly technical sphere. I think that my arguements are reasonably constructed and articulated.

Whether it is limited depends on what the basis and size of your sample set that you form your hypothesis on. I think 14 years and several hundreds of gamers gives me a reasonable sample size to base my generalisation on.

How you find my parody of myself (as a PC gamer) insulting is beyond me - unless it hit a raw nerve. Everquest was/is a life hoover. It turned reasonable, nice sociable people, into gaming obsesed basement dwelling trogolodytes, obsessed with obtaining that next sword of dobber (or whatever). This is not just my experience, but that of hundreds if not thousands of MMO gamers who have suffered similar addictions.

I stand by my comments and critique, graphics do not a video game make.

On a personal note, I do miss PC gaming, but my wife and family are far more important to me. I love the fact that my daughters sit with me whilst I game, they understand that 'daddy time' can be shared. They on the other hand, are both PC gamers (they are 5 and 7) but it is a supervised activity (off-line) and they will not grow up to be basement dwellers !!!! :P
 
You can spend £200 on a second hand rig and have something that outperforms a 360 though.
Hell, you could probably have something that outperforms a PS3 at that price. I just sold a PC with a Q6600 and 8800GT for £250. It can still show the PS3 a clean pair of heels on new games.

If you want something that's top of the range new tech, then yes, you will pay for it. No doubt you'll pay a similar price when the next console generation first hits the shelves.
It's all relative.


i had that pc spec in my xps 420 was a good pc but was showing its age with the latest games thats why i upgraded. but then my 8800 was the 512mb version but i wouldnt say it was a console beater.
 
I know PC has better detail/resolution/lighting etc etc but some games I find look as good/ better on the xbox/ps3 than on the pc
I think it's because the detail on the PC shows up the imperfections more, whereas on a console it just looks smudged/blended, but still very impressive/lifelike when sitting 8ft or whatever from the TV
I get the same impressions, I actually was very surprised with the IQ of Fallout 3 and New Vegas on my 40" LCD with a PS3 compared to my PC.

Add to that the fact that the lounge is much nicer to play games than the loft
 
sorry for not being 100% clear but I was never questioning the technical merits of a PC compared to a console, I know PCs have more power to produce better resolutions, textures, lighting.....I was meaning the "feel" of the game, rather than the look, I suppose

was wondering if I was on my own with this thought, but apparently not!

I recently upgraded to a GTX470 and my pc can run pretty much anything but I still get as big a wow factor! when playing my xbox

I think the only games I will play on my pc are FPS like COD, Battlefield, or any other mouse n keyboard only games

as someone said on the first page, it just seems wrong playing on a big screen with a controller when using the pc, even tho there's no real reason for it to be like that
 
It's a ridiculous statement either way. There is no reason a PC or console game should be more immersive one way or another, as so much is dependent on individual setups, the game in question, the player, etc.

The thing about opinions is that they are like ********* ! We all have them.

I dont see why its a ridiculous statement. Close proximity to my Monitor as I am playing on my PC is reason enough for me to explain my total undivided attention and Immersion.

When I'm playing on my PS3 I'm more relaxed and chilled out on the sofa.

I have the best of both worlds though as I love both platforms Console and PC.
 
I built a decent spec gaming pc a few months back and i found 90% of my time was spent fiddling and running benchmarks etc.. I find with the xbox i actually sit and play the games. For me there is way too much fiddle factor involved with a Pc that stops me most of the time playing the games. (One exeption being Star-Craft II)...
 
It's a silly statement as you could play your PS3 on the same monitor at the same distance, just as you could your pc on your tv. Your logic is flawed!

How many people who game on a PS3 have it hooked up to a monitor ?

I think your grasping at straws to further you argument myself.
 
How many people who game on a PS3 have it hooked up to a monitor ?

Quite a few.

I play console games on a projector and could argue the larger image makes them more immersive than sitting close to a monitor - but that would be just as silly. What's stopping someone sitting close to their TV when playing console games? Your point is rubbish ;)
 
I built a decent spec gaming pc a few months back and i found 90% of my time was spent fiddling and running benchmarks etc.. I find with the xbox i actually sit and play the games. For me there is way too much fiddle factor involved with a Pc that stops me most of the time playing the games. (One exeption being Star-Craft II)...

True.. I purchased F1 2010 for my gamig rig, and I found I was spending more time in notepad++ editing xml files and downloading newer car skins, or track texture updates etc then I was actually playing the game..

I also seemed to spend more time setting up my PS3 pad to use on the PC or setting up the wheel.

Got the PS3 version of F1 2010, despite there being some screen tearing in the pits, game was pretty much the same as the PC but least I did actually play it. and steering wheel and gamepad just worked.. Loaded a LOT quicker on the PS3 as well...

TBH, I have a PS3, 360 and a PC so I'm well covered for any game I want to play on any system. No point limiting yourself if you're a gamer...

All do what they are meant to do.. I just know with PC games I do tend to fiddle a bit more then I should then actually playing the game.
 
Meh I enjoy games regardless of what platform they are on.

I am currently re-playing Oblivion on my PS3 simply because I like lounging back and enjoying the immersion.

Oddly despite having a high end gaming pc I am finding I spend most of my time playing PC games on my Alienware M11x. Part of this is because I enjoy tweaking the heck out of games just as much as playing them (The M11x is relatively underpowered compared to current high end hardware) and the other part is well.. the looks you get when playing BC2 on something that isn't much bigger than a Netbook. :D
 
I have been playing Pc games for decades, I imagine the same could be said for most of you. However, fired up my ps3 today, full 5.1 and it is awesome.

Console graphics are very poor though, it's like staring at the screen with my glasses off if the screen was covered in Vasaline... or words to that effect :D

I still enjoyed my ps3 experience though.
 
If you don't want the hasstle of patching, compatability issues, possible crashes and so on, just get it on the 360, the PC graphics ARE going to be better than a console as there are more variable options to change than on the console altering the level of detail, shadow and so on.

For simplicity of play and go, console all the way IMHO...

Stu



You still living in a cave or something? utter tosh if your speaking about most pc games released for the past 10 years.

Yea as if GT5, and millions of other console games dont need patching or has crashes:rolleyes:
 
True.. I purchased F1 2010 for my gamig rig, and I found I was spending more time in notepad++ editing xml files and downloading newer car skins, or track texture updates etc then I was actually playing the game..

It makes all the difference though. Lighting mods, tv style t-cams, hi-res skins and the list goes on at racedepartment.

When I go back to the console version it looks so dull, blurry and bland.




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Got the PS3 version of F1 2010, despite there being some screen tearing in the pits, game was pretty much the same as the PC but least I did actually play it. and steering wheel and gamepad just worked.. Loaded a LOT quicker on the PS3 as well...

There was some settings on the xml files to change which mine now loads as quick as the PS3.


TBH, I have a PS3, 360 and a PC so I'm well covered for any game I want to play on any system. No point limiting yourself if you're a gamer...

All do what they are meant to do.. I just know with PC games I do tend to fiddle a bit more then I should then actually playing the game.

I honestly feel when I play GT5 I feel like I'm on the PC.

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So lets look at this post then...

1) You mean You suck at fps on a consol? Cause i know many people who can play FPS fine on a consol.

2) MMO ill agree with but only big MMO on pc is WOW anyway

3) Regarding ports its extremly rare for pc to get any games that arent ported which is what is letting the PC down imo

4) Why would you want to multi task on a consol their not aimed for that?

5) 3D isnt main stream yet anyway so kind of pointless point, when the current gen consols were done they werent trying to get into any 3D Market

6) Game price, Not really an issue if you chose were you buy carefuly.

Points i may of missed i agree with or too lazy to answer, I also apologise for bad grammer :P

Regarding the OP, Id read EG digital foundry comparing NFS on PC/360/PS3, PC just edged it and i mean just.

Quite funny you say that, cause New Years Eve I was at a friends who was banging on about how great he was at Halo. I've never played the game franchise. He was pretty good, but I beat him consistantly after losing the first match.. Same thing happened when a family member came to visit, saying how great he was on ps3 at black ops.

All my life people have told me how great they are at fps console games and I've beaten them once I've gotten a hang of the maps etc.

It's what happens when you play esports for cash when you were younger, fps' aren't challenging on console - especially when you can autoaim on mp :s first time I played black ops over christmas on console - waste of time.

Nicely left out the cost involved in the inital outlay for a rig that is highly specced enough to be THAT much more noticably better over the current gen of consoles.

Mentioned it at the bottom of my op.
 
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