UK government proposes to block all Internet porn as standard

[LordSplodge]

Can't really see the problem.

You can't? Seriously?

It's the thin edge of the wedge for starters. Just because it is pornography the "think of the children" brigade see this as OK.

The trouble is once this has been passed it gets easier and easier to get additional blocks through. Want access to anti-government websites? Sure just ask. Want access to websites about guns? Sure just ask. Repeat ad nauseum.

The next step after that is to make access completely illegal. It is far easier to do this if you've made it opt-out first. Of course blocking these now illegal sites is fine because it is all for the good of the children.

It isn't either the Government or ISP's job to regulate what your children have access to. That's the job of a parent.

The Internet genie is out the bottle now and Governments are trying to stuff it back in the bottle.

 

[BunnyKillBot]

But it's just tosh. One minute they are saying 'ohh teenage pregnancies TERRIBLE'. Next they are saying that oh teenage relationships should be encouraged and taking away porn will do this. It's not about the porn, it's about damn right censorship as many others have said as have the UK ISP's.

Erm, no.

Internet addiction to pornography is rife amongst teenage and young adult males, but because its a taboo its barely reported. The severity of material available on the internet is significantly more extreme than that available in music, tv, or licensed shops, all of which the purveyor is subject to heavy fines should they serve a minor.

As a result, young males in this country see women as little more than toilets. If you need to pee, you go to a toilet. If you need to ejaculate semen, you go to a women. Pornography proliferates the ideal that women are sexual objects to be extorted by men. Take ejaculating onto a women's face for example, the standard conclusion of every porno for past decade. Would you even think to get your rocks off shooting your man juice into your lovers eye had you not seen it on the internet?


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There have been a couple of high profile media cases in recent years of very young children getting into trouble for rape/molestation. A group of pre-teen boys do not wake up one day and suddenly think 'Hey i want to put my hoo ha in her cha cha!'. Beyond messed up family situations, they see it in porn, they dont understand the implications of what they see, they re-enact it.

 

[Pestilence]

If you need to pee, you go to a toilet. If you need to ejaculate semen, you go to a women.

You forgot "If you need a sandwich...".

 

[Things change I've changed]

Erm, no.

As a result, young males in this country see women as little more than toilets. If you need to pee, you go to a toilet. If you need to ejaculate semen, you go to a women. Pornography proliferates the ideal that women are sexual objects to be extorted by men. Take ejaculating onto a women's face for example, the standard conclusion of every porno for past decade. Would you even think to get your rocks off shooting your man juice into your lovers eye had you not seen it on the internet?

My friend, this has been going on since the dark ages, nothing you see in any porno online is new.

 

[BunnyKillBot]

You forgot "If you need a sandwich...".

Afaik i know, making a sandwich is not the excretion of a bodily fluid, the analogy fails

 

[Energize]

Erm, no.

Internet addiction to pornography is rife amongst teenage and young adult males, but because its a taboo its barely reported. The severity of material available on the internet is significantly more extreme than that available in music, tv, or licensed shops, all of which the purveyor is subject to heavy fines should they serve a minor.

As a result, young males in this country see women as little more than toilets. If you need to pee, you go to a toilet. If you need to ejaculate semen, you go to a women. Pornography proliferates the ideal that women are sexual objects to be extorted by men. Take ejaculating onto a women's face for example, the standard conclusion of every porno for past decade. Would you even think to get your rocks off shooting your man juice into your lovers eye had you not seen it on the internet?

You don't seriously believe these sex acts are anything new do you? Perhaps a history lesson on the sexual activities of the Romans etc would enlighten you. Please stop reading the daily mail.

 

[LordSplodge]

Erm, no.

Internet addiction to pornography is rife

A percentage of the population are vulnerable to addiction. Now adults that get addicted are slightly different from children so I'll leave them to one side.

You don't deal with young people addicted to pornography by banning it. This just pushes it underground. You deal with this problem by educating parents on how to keep their Childs Internet under supervision. Simple things like keeping the computer in the family room, having supervised access, filtering software and so on.

I'm not quite sure what the stuff about ejaculation was all about but suffice to say that a well grounded individual won't need to copy internet pornography verbatim to get their rocks off.

 

[Pestilence]

Afaik i know, making a sandwich is not the excretion of a bodily fluid, the analogy fails

..but that's how I reward her for making mine!


*BA-DUM TSSCHHH!!!*

 

[Dave M]

Sense

That's not a very liberal view, almost right wing in fact

I do agree that our culture has come from the ridiculously prudish victorian morals to a complete liberal free for all in a very short time. It isn't completely out of order to suggest a discussion on how far we go down the moral toilet and what should be done to protect the most vulnerable.

 

[steve-h]

Erm, no.

Internet addiction to pornography is rife amongst teenage and young adult males, but because its a taboo its barely reported. The severity of material available on the internet is significantly more extreme than that available in music, tv, or licensed shops, all of which the purveyor is subject to heavy fines should they serve a minor.

Sources? What do you count as an addiction?

As a result, young males in this country see women as little more than toilets. If you need to pee, you go to a toilet. If you need to ejaculate semen, you go to a women. Pornography proliferates the ideal that women are sexual objects to be extorted by men.

Women ARE sexual objects, if they weren't we'd of died out by now. It's not just males who watch porn either... men are also sexual objects. Strong feminazi.

Take ejaculating onto a women's face for example, the standard conclusion of every porno for past decade. Would you even think to get your rocks off shooting your man juice into your lovers eye had you not seen it on the internet?

LOL.

There have been a couple of high profile media cases in recent years of very young children getting into trouble for rape/molestation. A group of pre-teen boys do not wake up one day and suddenly think 'Hey i want to put my hoo ha in her cha cha!'. Beyond messed up family situations, they see it in porn, they dont understand the implications of what they see, they re-enact it.

Clearly porn's fault

 

[BunnyKillBot]

My friend, this has been going on since the dark ages, nothing you see in any porno online is new.

Of course it has, the point is the depictions of such acts accessible to anyone, anywhere increases the likelihood/number of incidence of said act occurring. Take the illegal act of possessing a terrorist hand book for instance. You don't have to be a terrorist to make a bomb from the anarchists cookbook.

 

[LordSplodge]

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There have been a couple of high profile media cases in recent years of very young children getting into trouble for rape/molestation. A group of pre-teen boys do not wake up one day and suddenly think 'Hey i want to put my hoo ha in her cha cha!'. Beyond messed up family situations, they see it in porn, they dont understand the implications of what they see, they re-enact it.

It's the same fallacy that says that violet video games make children violent. This simply hasn't been proven.

Again banning pornography isn't the correct option. It is all down to parenting.

 

[Macky]

BunnyKillBot are you one of those guys who thinks a gun makes a killer then?

 

[Tefal]

BunnyKillBot are you one of those guys who thinks a gun makes a killer then?

evangelical Christian is my bet.

 

[LordSplodge]

Of course it has, the point is the depictions of such acts accessible to anyone, anywhere increases the likelihood/number of incidence of said act occurring. Take the illegal act of possessing a terrorist hand book for instance. You don't have to be a terrorist to make a bomb from the anarchists cookbook.

Ann the good old knee jerk responses fro UK Gov of making "terrorist" material illegal.

That's going to stop terrorism. Just like banning porn will stop rapists.

 

[antijoke]

Surely this wont get through.

 

[BunnyKillBot]

Sources? What do you count as an addiction?

A percentage of the population are vulnerable to addiction.

Actually, you are wrong. All males are liable to pornography addiction by right of Masturbatory Reinforcement. In short, the pay off from masturbating to ejaculation is significant enough to create a 'good' association between the act and the conclusion. The more you do it, the more you want to do, and often, the more extreme material is required for the same high. There is a good south park parody of this when south park loses the internet.

BunnyKillBot are you one of those guys who thinks a gun makes a killer then?

Not at all.

 

[steve-h]

Surely this wont get through.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12041063

"I'm hoping they will get their acts together so we don't have to legislate, but we are keeping an eye on the situation and we will have a new communications bill in the next couple of years."

raged me so much

 

[Macky]

Then how on earth can you agree that taking away or at least making it more difficult for people to view pornography is a good idea and will solve anything? It is not about the porn. It is about the British Government trying to take away anything that they aren't making money on pretty much or anything that is discrediting them. WikiLeaks being phased out. What reason was there for that? It ain't harming the children is it?

 

[m0r94n]

Actually, you are wrong. All males are liable to pornography addiction by right of Masturbatory Reinforcement. In short, the pay off from masturbating to ejaculation is significant enough to create a 'good' association between the act and the conclusion. The more you do it, the more you want to do, and often, the more extreme material is required for the same high. There is a good south park parody of this when south park loses the internet.

That's called an addiction. People have similar problems when drinking or using drugs.

As for the South Park episode, I believe that was a parody of society's overuse of the internet in general, with pornography and Randy being used to comic effect rather than being a social comment.


As for your earlier points, I find them rather distasteful as much of what you have said seems to be based within a generalisation. I am a young male who doesn't see women as "toilets" and I know many people that feel the same way. In fact, on the other side of the fence I have known many women to use men in a similar way to what you describe.

In regards to your point about more material being available increasing the likelihood of copycats: I would argue that advances in both technology and journalism have made stories of abuse more widely available to the public, and as such many people are of the belief that these things did not happen as frequently in the past.