Considering a car change in March-April next year and looking to spend upto 45k

I'm going to give you my view based on what I think you seek in a car not what I seek. From what I know about you, which is a lot less than many on here, I think we seek different things in our cars so me looking at it from my eyes would not give you anything of value.

You loved your Mustang and I think the main reasons you loved it was because of it's sheer power, its noise and road presence, it was something different and it was very quick in a way that was easy to exploit. When you took me out in it we blatted up and down some straight roads and it was without question a bloody quick car. You didn't really gel with the CSL feeling it lacked horses and compared to the Mustang it did, but I wouldn't think twice about which I'd take, it would be the CSL everytime. When you drove my GT3, which to be fair was set up very very sharply, you were intimidated by it (and were big enough to admit it) as was I at first, but I only drove a few miles and knew I HAD to have that car. You did loads more and knew it simply wasnt right for you and though there is nothing wrong with that, you were seeking something different and compared to your Mustang it was worlds appart. I think you came to see how far appart the CSL and GT3 actually are in terms of sharpness too (that's not speed) on the road, not least when you compare a standard set up CSL to a tweaked GT3.

I also think the Evo hasn't really gelled either and though they are quick, like my RS4 they are also very easy to pedal and this takes something from them in my eyes. Thing is I think what you want in a car is an explosion of power, a lound noise and something different. From what I know of you I don't believe a 997 C2 will give you what you seek, it's too accomplished and I also don't think you'd get close to exploiting it on the road, much like the CSL. Now that is not to suggest you don't drive quickly it just outlines that cars that are so accomplished only start to show themselves at SERIOUS licence losing speeds.

Sagaris would be madness, it is quick, has epic noise and road presence and of course carries petrolhead respect, but it really isn't a reliable daily trotter no matter what TVR owners might lead one to think. My mate with the LS7 version (back of this months EVO) changed the lump because he constantly worried, even though his was sound, it was going to go pop, for most did. Would you want to take a non assisted RWD bathtub out in this weather?

I think a Noble M400 would be not you either, I think it's too focused and compromised and to me, knowing you a little bit, I feel the ZO6 is probably where you perhaps need to play next. It has many of the aspects you loved about your Stang but it more focused. Now the issues comes if you want to mod it of course and this is where the issues lie. A 996 GT2 is a different car to a 996 GT3, it's not a GT3 with a turbo, it's softer and less well sorted and WILL need tweaking if you are not to dead yourself. They are VERY larey and you will need to be on your game if going quickly, not least if in a corner when you need to stop or change direction, it's not until you have had to do this that you realise why 911's can be challenging. A 996 GT2 will of course tune like few other, but it will also come with a bill that will be in 10's of thousands, not hundreds. Personally I would have said a GT-R would have been ideal as it's massively powerful, epic cross country but I think a 45K GT-R is not something you can run unless you can afford 2, which is the same with most exotic stuff.

Viper would make your Mustang look bleeding edge, personally I'd avoid it but then perhaps that's me looking at it through my eyes not yours. Go drive some cars and make the call is my advice.
 
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Surely the TT-RS has the same Haldex system as the other current VAG cars, ie A3, Golf, etc?

There's different generations of Haldex.

They're on their fourth now, and the fifth is due in 2012.

I've found sources that state the cars i mentioned had the 4th Gen Haldex. Not sure which other cars in the VW / Audi group have 4th Gen Haldex. eg. the Latest S3 doesn't apparently, so not being sure didnt state any others.
 
I've just been doing some research on the TTRS, and it seems like a decent piece of kit.

It seems the only real issue is that the Haldex is FWD biased, which leads to understeer - but seeing as Haldex is computer controlled, and you can already have haldex systems reprogrammed - I'm sure that needn't be a problem for too long.

However, once you have the remap and the haldex reprogrammed, whilst you have a very capable car, you'll likely have no warranty.

Indeed MTM sell a revised Haldex ECU for the TT RS

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/Audi/TT...40hp-quattro?FZID=TTRS8J250Q&KIT=m-haldex-sg4

Over 1000 euros however.

Gibbo - the C6 is 1928mm wide and 4460mm long.

The narrowest 997, the GT3, is 1770mm wide and 4435mm long.

So the C6 is about 15cm wider and 2.5cm longer than the smallest 997. Not the be all and end all - but it is a difference. The C6 is actually shorter than a lot of 997's and about 8cm wider than the widest 997......

Being LHD just means you have better visibility for the opposite corners than a right hooker :D :p

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Looks stunning imo.

Take another drive gibbo. You need to fall in love with the Zo6 again :D
 
TTRS - lolwut. I'm sure they're fast, but pretty soon I'd be having nightmares about spending that much just to re-enact Herbie Goes Bananas.

PS tips hat at the Wikipedia joke.
 
z06 just looks like a tonka toy to me, I don't deny they are capable and excellent cars, but I would only want one in my toy car transporter, and only then if it was yellow
 
z06 just looks like a tonka toy to me, I don't deny they are capable and excellent cars, but I would only want one in my toy car transporter, and only then if it was yellow

If it was not for the width I'd buy one straight away. :)
But fact is a Z06 will force me to take main roads, good for posing yes, but my favourite roads are the narrow twisty backroads to work which a Z06 would end up loosing its mirrors down or badly scuffed for when idiots in white vans and cars come down on my side of the road.

I had it in the Mustang other road users did not realise how wide you are until they are about to hit you, then all of a sudden they realise oh he is already driving in the gutter and can't move over any more and then they move over. Problem this gives down such roads I can't be driving spirited for fear of meeting something coming the other way. In the EVO its narrower enough to just get by and I can drive it how I want, in the Mustang or a Corvette I'd be crashing or have some serious scrapes down my bodywork simply because they are too wide for most of our roads and for whatever reason most UK road users struggle to keep in their lane and to their side of the road.

This is a crying shame because I did not realise they had dropped to sub 40k and now I really want one. :(

Housey is also right I loved the CSL hugely but at the same time it did not have explosive power or explosive power delivery. This is why something like a 450BHP TT RS gets my attention, its got a torquey peaky engine in something small and lightweight that is cheap to run and is chuckable.

Though I am very tempted to get some seat time in a 997 C2S or similar for sure. :)
 
z06 just looks like a tonka toy to me, I don't deny they are capable and excellent cars, but I would only want one in my toy car transporter, and only then if it was yellow

I just for the life of me cant see what the appeal is, and lhd on top of that. Its looks like a radio control car bahhhhhh
 
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I dunno, I can see the appeal :p

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A Z06 is only 4cm wider than a Mondeo. 4cm's quite a big difference in some cases though ;) :D
 
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I just for the life of me cant see what the appeal is, and lhd on top of that. Its looks like a radio control car bahhhhhh

LHD no problem for me, been there before.

The appeal for me is V8, lary looks, proper drivers car, insanely fast, moddable, can work on it myself, service it and fix it should it break.

I adore the looks.

Downsides for me is its size. :(
The EVO has given me an appreciation off hurtling down narrow bumpy little back roads, anything American struggles at this due to their size and the fact their suspensions are more tuned for smoother surfaces.

Still a 997 is also very appealing.
 
Thats whats wrong with the youth of today, your eyes are obviously not working right!
 
Too young for me mate, I prefer yummy mummys :p

Theres nothing wrong with them 2 its that blue plastic thing with the nasty interior that they have bumped into ;)

They were obviously looking for a Porsche to cum over and got lost :D
 
Gibbo, go and investigate a TTRS for a weekend or something. They sound truly fantastic and they're so easily moddable. However, warranties seem to be an issue...
Whilst is all good fun laughing at Haldex and the fact it's a Golf, but who here has actually driven one?
 
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