Snow and Retardedly slow driving (doing my head in)

I manage 90 in the outside lane with the windscreen completely white with salt still.

Its a bit of a squeeze as its not been ploughed for the full width so sometimes it means I need to use a bit of the middle lane too. People understand though and show their appreciation for me through hand gesture.
 
Some have slammed the OP for being a typical inexperienced new driver type thinking he's gods gift to driving but he's got a point.

Only yesterday did i experience somebody doing 30mph in a 50mph, and even when he approached a bend, had to brake to slow himself down some more.

Snow on the grass beside the roads seems to bring all the idiots out who think "its icy i must slow down" despite the fact that all the roads are gritted and its perfectly fine to do 50mph in a straight line on wet roads.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
I'm from Cwmbran too. I think you'll find that not all of the roads are bone dry and gritted, when the snow was quite bad a few days ago we had a couple of bus routes open and most of the side roads were still a few feet deep with snow.
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To be fair dude I made this thread 3 weeks ago but yeah conditions are far far worse now than then.
 
I think this weather makes one thing patently clear. We all should have had some decent hazard training, this would allay people fears of difficult conditions.
 
Less speed more control - I've been out in the car every day for the last couple of weeks and you could very easily come across a slippy patch and take an unplanned detour!

I wonder what excuse you speed merchants will come up with if you skid into something?
 
marl said:
Less speed more control - I've been out in the car every day for the last couple of weeks and you could very easily come across a slippy patch and take an unplanned detour!

I wonder what excuse you speed merchants will come up with if you skid into something?
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the problem is most of these people driving slowly have less control because they have no idea what they are doing, like suddenly stopping and giving way to someone when they have the right of way etc etc.
 
[ASSE]Hinchy;18072624 said:
My aunty was pulled over by the police doing 10mph with her hazard lights flashing on the motorway on the way to Blackpool.

Stupid woman....
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Women are a hazard on the road, so maybe she was right to have her hazard lights on? :D
 
R420LA6X2/4MNA said:
I'm nearly 40 and truly shudder to think how many miles I have driven..... :(


My point being, despite my job, age & "experience", I sincerely don't regard myself as experienced. Why? because rarely does a day go by when I don't learn something new - driving related - however trivial....

The only time you can say your experienced is when you hang your keys up for good and have lived to tell the tale! :D
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Words from a wiseman there. Remind's me of my dad. He drove taxis for 20 years, covered something like 2-3 million miles in his life and always told me. You never stop learning, you learn something new everyday. Never think you know it all, you know nothing!!!

Just to be clear he wasn't your typical taxi driver, drove very sensibly. He's preaching at me this winter to drive carefully, I must say though I do agree somewhat. There is a time and a place to drive "carefully" I was stuck behind an idiot doing 25mph in a 40mph for about 10 minutes earlier with no room to overtake. Wasn't pleasant. Roads are clear.

Just need to chill out, listen to your music and think at least i'm not sitting on a bus with a junkie next to me asking if I have a light.
 
What i find really annoying is the insistance that it's snowed therefore you must do about 5mph everywhere and stop at give way signs, or cause everyone else to stop at every oppertunity you get.

I drive a rear wheel drive automatic car, that is fairly light at the back, i dont want to stop on every ******* junction or incline at roundabouts, they are give way signs for a reason !

Stopping or going too slow in these conditions can and does lead to just as many problems pulling away as driving too fast and trying to brake ! better to just let it roll along and keep everything nice and smooth than to constantly be accelerating and then slowing down
 
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I agree with this as well. But most people dont think much of speeding or tailgating when we have slightly wet roads and in the night it freezes at - temps and the next morning cause they dont see snow on the sides dont think of black ice or frozen roads as a issue until they lose control.

I followed a car on Thursday doing 30 on a 70 mph dual carriageway which was clear and the only snow as on the sides a little in the hard shoulder, so I overtook and even though I came back in with about 4 car lengths from him, he flashed his headlights on me. I was only doing 45 to pass him initially which was way under the speed and the roads was like a slightly damp day.
 
I came to Stoke last night about 10PM and was just exiting the M40 when my old man groans why I'm staying so slow behind the van in front (was doing about 63MPH) and I was about to mention that the white patches on the road are ice, I'd rather not overtale that part of the road at 70+ with that kind of visible ice but before I could we notice traffic building up ahead...

As we get closer it's apparent what has happened. What looked like a 200SX was facing oncoming traffic between the inside and middle lane and its front end was a gonner, several other cars (at least 4-5 more) were involved in the accident too and people were just getting out of their cars and wandering around.

This 200SX and its "convoy" not long earlier overtook us at a fair bit over 70MPH and they were obviously quite close together throughout and at one point ahead someone lost control causing them all to have an accident :S

It's entirely possible that we could have been involved in it too had I been driving a bit faster and not paying attention to the road conditions!

So tens of people are going to be having a really rubbish Christmas all because of 1 or 2 people not paying attention and driving to the conditions of the road.
 
If the one or 2 people driving too fast have an accident, fine by me, the problem is they invariably take out 2 or 3 other vehicles with them.. not fine by me!
Sounds like those were maybe a little too close together given the conditions, or they all lost control one after the other on the same patch, much like we see in F1 sometimes when there is oil on the track
 
People do drive too slow in the snow. I've always felt it's best to breifly lose control of the car on purpose from time to time so it gives you more confidence in snow driving.
 
Gunslinger said:
If the one or 2 people driving too fast have an accident, fine by me, the problem is they invariably take out 2 or 3 other vehicles with them.. not fine by me!
Sounds like those were maybe a little too close together given the conditions, or they all lost control one after the other on the same patch, much like we see in F1 sometimes when there is oil on the track
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All it takes s for one person to swerve over the road and then a domino effect takes place where people behind take evasive action especially when they're following quite close!

To me it looked like the 200SX driver had lose it as it was the only one facing the opposite direction, the other car(s) probably hit is at some point and stopped wherever the did on the motorway. Not unexpected at that patch of road I guess, ice and snow still on the road and in an RWD car with no traction control!
 
RobRX-7 said:
People do drive too slow in the snow. I've always felt it's best to breifly lose control of the car on purpose from time to time so it gives you more confidence in snow driving.
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I definitely agree, a little while back I was driving to the Forest of Dean and overtook a car on a little dual-lane bit (doing about 60 I think), and hit a patch of black ice on a slight bend, making my front wheels lose traction (front wheel drive).
If I hadn't messed around a lot in the snow back in January I probably would have instinctively jabbed the brakes and slammed into the fence. Instead I just over steered a bit and carried on going.

On the other hand, I haven't noticed any driving 'too' slow in the snow, although the traffic completely stopped last time it snowed as everyone tried to get back home.
 
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