Focus ST or Impreza WRX?
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Well to be fair, what he said wasn't far wrong as it turns out, if everyone wants to have a pop at him for it, why shouldn't he defend what he said?
Mike appears to be talking sense..
What he isn't doing, is saying that the ST can be tuned better/more than the WRX.
He is saying that the ST can be tuned for a negligible £200, therefore, if you are comparing an ST to a WRX, you may as well compare the ST with a map to the WRX standard.
What he isn't doing, is saying that the ST can be tuned better/more than the WRX.
He is saying that the ST can be tuned for a negligible £200, therefore, if you are comparing an ST to a WRX, you may as well compare the ST with a map to the WRX standard.
Because if you're going to come into a thread and make relevantly bold statements you must have a bit more evidence on hand than "My mate said...".
Yawn, I think I'm going to have to put you in the same place as Peerzy, too 
"My mate said", and "someone who maps and tunes Imprezas for a living" are two very different things. I trust my source enough to quote his information as fact and as it turns out, my judgement was correct.
"My mate said", and "someone who maps and tunes Imprezas for a living" are two very different things. I trust my source enough to quote his information as fact and as it turns out, my judgement was correct.
Similarly if people are going to mock him, so should they but as it happens, it seems he was more correct than most of those who sought to pick at him on this occasion.
I'm sure you know well enough Joshy, i'm one of many who will have a laugh at Mike if I think he's posted something ridiculous but at the same time, if I think he's getting picked at for something where he's actually not far wrong i'll happily stick up for him a bit.
I'm sure you know well enough Joshy, i'm one of many who will have a laugh at Mike if I think he's posted something ridiculous but at the same time, if I think he's getting picked at for something where he's actually not far wrong i'll happily stick up for him a bit.
at the end of the day, you two were talking about different things.
One was talking about a custom map done with live tuning, the other an off the shelf map which is considerably cheaper.
For some reason the impreza community don't seem to be particularly enamoured with off the shelf maps, with many advocating that the only proper way to tune an impreza is with a custom map.
Don't know enough to say who'se right however.
One was talking about a custom map done with live tuning, the other an off the shelf map which is considerably cheaper.
For some reason the impreza community don't seem to be particularly enamoured with off the shelf maps, with many advocating that the only proper way to tune an impreza is with a custom map.
Don't know enough to say who'se right however.
As incredible as it may sound, I wasn't having a pop for the sake of having a pop, more so at the basis of the comment, especially how it did appear for quite a while to be wrong.
It could still be wrong - I'd still like to point out that we haven't seen any concrete numbers
.I think that was the problem, someone grabbed hold of the wrong end of his, I mean the stick
As incredible as it may sound, I wasn't having a pop for the sake of having a pop, more so at the basis of the comment, especially how it did appear for quite a while to be wrong.
It could still be wrong - I'd still like to point out that we haven't seen any concrete numbers
considering somebody who works for our favourite subaru tuner (powerstation) has just confirmed that 250bhp ish for a remap is about right i think we can forget arguing with mike. its obvious that unless you want to spend lots of £££ on a custom map, 250 bhp ish is normal.
As incredible as it may sound, I wasn't having a pop for the sake of having a pop, more so at the basis of the comment, especially how it did appear for quite a while to be wrong.
It could still be wrong - I'd still like to point out that we haven't seen any concrete numbers
Well we've seen that a variety of places will require at least an exhaust to get to 265bhp and some places feel the need to go as far as making the car non MOT worthy to manage 275bhp, so I think Mike is probably fairly on the mark when he said that remapping a straight stock WRX won't see you much more than 250bhp.
I think it's probably fairly telling that it's quite hard to actually find anyone offering just a remap on it's own for these cars - that in itself suggests it's probably a fairly futile exercise.
thats more down to the needs of buyers.
As i've already said, off the shelf maps arent popular with the community and few can resist the temptation to go further and get more power.
It could still be wrong - I'd still like to point out that we haven't seen any concrete numbers
LOL, really?
So we've got a Subaru tuner, evidence from two other tuners that tune Imprezas, someone who used to own the Impreza, and now ScubaScorpion who I believe actually maps them?
This has gone on far too long now.
Mike, what have we told you about taking these shots too seriously?
It was a joke, calm down!
Just to bring this back on topic [i know, how cheeky am i ?] I think the best bet is to have a test drive of both and see which you prefer. I chose the ST for my reasons, you will possibly choose the Scooby for differing reasons. At the end of the day, its your decision as you are the one that has to live with that decision day-in day-out.
Whichever you choose [if any ] i hope your as happy with it as i am with the ST.
Whichever you choose [if any ] i hope your as happy with it as i am with the ST.
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Obviously I am wrong then. I have seen many many instances to say otherwise but evidence here states otherwise.
And for info for others, the remap Powerstation would provide for said power is an ECUtek remap which is over £600 so not comparable to the £200 Bluefin option for the ST. The open source method of £350 is the comparable remap route.
Well the DreamScience Stratagem is close on £600 but you do get to keep that and can change map whenever you feel like it. Plus you can add other maps to it.
so a base ECUTek remap gets 250bhp ?
but an open source based map can get 270bhp + ?
are there any other costs ?