SSD for a MMO game...

Awesome. Thanks chaps. Bit the bullet and ordered a 64gb OCZ Sandforce for sub £100.

I'll check out the link Zarf (thank you for that!) and post back findings once I install her computer (over xmas). If it turns out I do need to get W7 then so be it, but I wanna save a few bucks if I can.
 
As someone said, XP is a manual setup option, but really no worse, Trim makes little to no difference on most of the good drives around now, and Win 7 auto handling your SSD is completely incorrect.

Both my crucial drives and my previous Samsung, win 7 detected NONE of them as SSD's and I still had to manually disable defrag, superfetch and you can if you want disable prefetch though I'm not sure Win 7 does even if it detects the drive as an SSD.

Fundamental flaw as always with windows is it will usually detect SSD's automatically, you know, ones that were released before Win 7 install disc's got printed(mostly) and some after, but not all.

I bet theres a bunch of people who think their ssd is all setup perfectly and it isn't, and after you set it up perfectly, you'll probably see next to no difference.

THe ONLY thing you HAVE to do is align it correctly.

Check out the Anandtech C300 reviews, unaligned vs aligned and several key parts of the performance are completely different, while the sandforce drives didn't make a whole lot of difference. But its the one thing to get right, and very easy to do.

The lower end Crucial's aren't really worth the cash as read performance(or write, forget which) improves significantly with each bump in capacity while Sandforce/Indilinx drives aren't hugely different, some, but not nearly the drop you get from the C300's controller.

Also, put windows on it, 99% of the benefits from SSD's really need both windows and the pagefile on the SSD otherwise its largely a waste, not always, depends on the program, but 99% of situations you put the OS on the ssd then whatever else you can fit in the priority of how often you use something. 64gb sounds small these days, but when you whack all your video's, pictures, and most of your not particularly HDD taxing games on a normal HDD you find you don't actually need that much space.
 
Both my crucial drives and my previous Samsung, win 7 detected NONE of them as SSD's and I still had to manually disable defrag, superfetch and you can if you want disable prefetch though I'm not sure Win 7 does even if it detects the drive as an SSD.

Did you manually run the Windows Experience Index? IIRC this is when Win7 determines if you have an SSD, It goes on the benchmark results rather than models.
TBH its quicker to disable defrag yourself than run the WEI, but it does work.
 
I think youll see minimal improvement if your game is on another drive. Sure windows will boot quicker and be more responsive. But in my opinion the game should go on the ssd if possible.

Considering the pc was still running XP i would have possibly considered more RAM/ CPU/GPU upgrade if it were cheap enough.

I want an SSD! :(
 
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Blackout! I just installed a OCZ 60GB SSD installed W7 and wow onto it.
I can tell you for sure when I portal to another part of Azeroth it takes milliseconds for the data to load.

As far as W7 loading time i dont even get to see the welcome screen.
 
World of Warcraft is the game that i appreciate having an ssd the most. As said above, portal load times are milliseconds. When going into a densely populated area with my velociraptor raid 0 there would be slight pauses as all the different players were loading. The ssd made this all seamless.

Phil.
 
Hi All. Right after a bit of a faf I managed to get my mum's PC up and running.

I went for W7 and the SSD. Was going to put both on the SSD, but stupidly I bought a retail upgrade version of W7 at the last minute (should have ordered the OEM W7 with the hard drive...but lesson learned).

Anyway, what I didn't realise (I'm sure it is a change over XP!!!) is that I could only install W7 to a drive that already had xp on it. I used to be able to do a fresh install I am stall as long as I had codes from the other versions etc.

Now as I couldn't find the old xp disks that meant installing W7 on the Raptor and Vanguard on the SSD.

So anyway, as to results, the loading after crossing a chunk line is faster, and general experience all round is a bit smoother. I need to do a bit of tweaking and checking to make sure it is set up as it should be though, as I am not convinced I have it set up right yet.

In short, I don't know if this SSD is necessarily the best one for Vanguard or not. My gut feel is that it could still be loading faster, so I am wondering if compression is not offering the full benefit/speed for the textures and game stuff this game is loading. With hindsight I might have tried one of the other drives that don't rely on compression...but as I say, I still have a fair bit of checking, benchmarking and tweaking to do to make sure it is set up right.

If I get any different results with it I will post back. ;-)
 
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Download AS SSD and see that the partition created is correctly aligned. It probably is as win7 should have recognised its a SSD anyway.

Also double check that defrag is off on the SSD (again win7 should do that automatically, but dbl check to be sure).

You can also download some benchmark programs and see that the performance is in line with what you expected.

The only thing I can think of is that maybe you have not set the BIOS to AHCI, which can be tricky to do once win7 is already installed. Google this to see if you want to risk it.
 
Off topic but does enabling AHCI/NCQ bring any tangible performance benefits to standard mechanical drives?

AHCI allows for hot-plugging, but from what I recall NCQ doesn't help mechanical drives out much unless you are dealing with the kind of high queue depths only seen in a data-centre.
 
Benchmark results for this so far as follows (I have no idea how to interpret these results so could someone tell me if this looks right or not?):

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I have no idea how to interpret these results so could someone tell me if this looks right or not?
 
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