Aswell as being old, I would call the v40 too small aswell.
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Aswell as being old, I would call the v40 too small aswell.
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That's great, if a little subjective, but what about at the £3k price point?
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It's 33% over budget and is a 2 litre petrol turbo.
He just wants a decent normal car, he neither wants the performance of nor needs the running costs of a 200bhp car.
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Turbo like just about everything Saab do, yes, but just because they're turbo'd doesn't make them automatically have performance car costs, they do low-mid 30s in mpg, and taking a quick glance the brake discs cost about £10 more than a mondeos for example, and £3k gets an 03 plate 9-5 estate.
Saab and Volvo are both good alternative options, yes they're not quite as cheap to run as the Mondeo but they're certainly not in a different league as long as main dealers aren't involved.
And OK, the MG version is overkill and a Rover 75 V6 might only do the low 30s in MPG and the belts changes are pricey but that aside, I don't think they're bad or expensive cars?
Saab and Volvo are both good alternative options, yes they're not quite as cheap to run as the Mondeo but they're certainly not in a different league as long as main dealers aren't involved.
And OK, the MG version is overkill and a Rover 75 V6 might only do the low 30s in MPG and the belts changes are pricey but that aside, I don't think they're bad or expensive cars?
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Saabs and Uniroyal tyres can suddenly do no wrong on this forum. What's happened?
They do have significantly higher repair costs than Fords. The whole 'forget main dealers' thing is nonsense because IME Ford dealerships are so cheap that its not worth bothering to find an indy.
The book figure for the 93 listed above is 29.4mpg on combined cycle, so you're suggesting that they're more economical than the manufacturer says? Pull the other one.
Autotrader doesn't pull up a single 93 estate for less than £3k.
DiamondMark is a saab (and obviously jag) fanboy but at least he doesn't wander round spouting this tripe.
lol, i have a saab with uniroyal tyres. (but i ain't saying anything else about that) You can achieve higher than the book figures (about 33mpg), but if driven normally rather than economically you will get the book figures. The turbo is nothing to worry about, i'm still on my original at 180k. Parts need not cost the earth either, and a good independent garage will be very competitive on service costs. Plus you can use a fair number of vauxhall parts which can be had cheaper aswell. (brakes for example)
The 9-5 will be the cheaper of the 2 models as it is less popular due to the size and probably the styling. Best off getting whatever you find that suits you and fits the criteria.
The 9-5 will be the cheaper of the 2 models as it is less popular due to the size and probably the styling. Best off getting whatever you find that suits you and fits the criteria.
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Blimey, got up the wrong side of the bed today or something?
I've not got any experience with that particular model 9-3, but an overall 32mpg is realistic for the 2.0 on the previous model & the 9-5 , with about 34mpg on motorway trips.
I've never owned a Mondeo so just looked up the parts costs for comparison, as I said before and applied a caveat to point out that the dealers could get expensive by comparison.
I've not got any experience with that particular model 9-3, but an overall 32mpg is realistic for the 2.0 on the previous model & the 9-5 , with about 34mpg on motorway trips.
Good job I said 9-5 then?
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Mondeo 2ltr then balance spec / age / mileage with your budget
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No, just incredulous at the fact that some poor sod who asked for a cheap (and therefore presumably cheap to run) estate is being sold down the river after a turbocharged bloody saab that handles like a bucket of custard and has a dash that looks like a 60's fighter jet cockpit. With uniroyal tyres no doubt.
There is nothing wrong with UniRoyals good chap.
They might sound like cheap junk, but are decent tyres for wet weather. Miles better than the Yokos and Toyos than I used on my 205s anyway
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I'm sorry, I'm not going to concede that point. There is PLENTY wrong with UniRoyals. They may not be as **** as they sound and they maybe good at not aquaplaning, but where is the evidence that backs up this sudden love for these things? Is it because they're cheap and they came out second in an evo review where they pitted against real premium brand tyres like Hankook and Kumho?
It bothers me that a forum that traditionally gives decent advice with a balance of the pros and cons is touting UniRoyal tyres as the go-to tyre for car enthusiasts and Saabs are some sort of Mondeo-trouncing 3-series alternative performance cars.
It bothers me that a forum that traditionally gives decent advice with a balance of the pros and cons is touting UniRoyal tyres as the go-to tyre for car enthusiasts and Saabs are some sort of Mondeo-trouncing 3-series alternative performance cars.
You want to calm down mate, they are called opinions.
As for your Saab slating, i do see them as a Mondeo alternative, maybe not a 3 series equal but lets have it right they didnt exactly set the world on fire until you put the bigger engines in them.
Uniroyals are a budget tyre - they are owned by Continental Tyres so are designed to compete against other budget tyres like Kumhos and Falkens.
There is nothing wrong with them, they are not high performance tyres, but we're talking about Saab Estates and such like, so chances are they are going to be driven somewhat less than enthusiastically and they will be fine.
Its not as though Nangkangs or Linglongs have been fitted. its the cheap chinese junk thats lethal and no excuse for.
Sudden love? What on earth are you talking about? Tyre wise this is the most snobbish forum I'm a member of. If you suggest for a second that you're going to fit tyres that aren't Michelin, Continental or Goodyear you better be prepared for an internet based fist fight for a couple of pages
.There isn't any "sudden love", just rather some people being more open minded and realizing that people putting on the likes of Uniroyal, Kumho and Toyo on their car is still a far sight better than getting the local tyre place to bung on the cheapest set of Wanlis or Linglongs they've got.
Of course this is decent advice. If you want relativity cheap tyres with wet weather performance as a priority you could do a lot worse than Uniroyals, just like if you want a Mondeo alternative you could do a lot worse than a Saab. Sometimes I think people here forget that some of us don't buy cars just because they make the most sense on paper.
The man at the start wanted a 3k estate suggestion, someone said a Mondeo, someone said a Saab, im not seeing the huge difference in running costs or reliability.
Some people hate them i think they are great if i was skint i would without doubt have a Saab. I dont see it as a bad suggestion at all.