Estate for £3K

The man at the start wanted a 3k estate suggestion, someone said a Mondeo, someone said a Saab, im not seeing the huge difference in running costs or reliability.

Some people hate them i think they are great if i was skint i would without doubt have a Saab. I dont see it as a bad suggestion at all.

I put you more in an x-type or an old xj myself.
 
I would have thought the x-type would have been reasonable?

Well i suppose but if i had one of them it would have to be a 3 litre, then there's the problem with size, i think i'd still rather have a 3k 9-5 than a 3k X type.

What would you have if you had 3k?
 
What would you have if you had 3k?

Not to sure. It's a question I may have to seriously ask myself soon though. Business isn't that fast atm and I've got a couple of teenage sister to look after (dad passed away in mid November) so could use the money from my Porsche for a couple of months, going to hold out until late March though so I get closer to a summer price. Not keen on debt, lifes stressful enough without that.

I'm thinking saloon, leather, electrics, 6 cylinders hopefully. Might get a £5k 330i E46 facelift sport or a 3L V6 x-type for about £4k. The other option would be to get another 9-3 Aero, you can get a 120k miler for about £3.5k, cheap as chips!
 
Sorry to hear things are slow, if you need something to tide you over once the Porsche goes let me know.
 
You want to calm down mate, they are called opinions.

As for your Saab slating, i do see them as a Mondeo alternative, maybe not a 3 series equal but lets have it right they didnt exactly set the world on fire until you put the bigger engines in them.
Yea, fair play. Reading it back it does sound very highly strung. My issue is that the negatives of Saabs or Mediocre tyres aren't being conveyed. They're being touted as brilliant and suitable for all applications.
Uniroyals are a budget tyre - they are owned by Continental Tyres so are designed to compete against other budget tyres like Kumhos and Falkens.

There is nothing wrong with them, they are not high performance tyres, but we're talking about Saab Estates and such like, so chances are they are going to be driven somewhat less than enthusiastically and they will be fine.

Its not as though Nangkangs or Linglongs have been fitted. its the cheap chinese junk thats lethal and no excuse for.
And there's the issue. 'nothing wrong with them'. Ok then, lets all have UniRoyals. After all they've done ok in ONE test. Against hankook and kumho.

Sudden love? What on earth are you talking about? Tyre wise this is the most snobbish forum I'm a member of. If you suggest for a second that you're going to fit tyres that aren't Michelin, Continental or Goodyear you better be prepared for an internet based fist fight for a couple of pages :p.

There isn't any "sudden love", just rather some people being more open minded and realizing that people putting on the likes of Uniroyal, Kumho and Toyo on their car is still a far sight better than getting the local tyre place to bung on the cheapest set of Wanlis or Linglongs they've got.



Of course this is decent advice. If you want relativity cheap tyres with wet weather performance as a priority you could do a lot worse than Uniroyals, just like if you want a Mondeo alternative you could do a lot worse than a Saab. Sometimes I think people here forget that some of us don't buy cars just because they make the most sense on paper.
I accept that mate, but that's not what is said most of the time. Anyway, I've had my rant, I'll shut up for a while now.
 
Everyone needs a rant my man, i have loads, happy new year to you :)
 
[TW]Fox;18115790 said:
And Saabs are no different.

So, back to 2.0 Mondeos, which are cheap as chips to buy, run and maintain...

Seriously mate be an expert on what you are an expert on, Saabs and Mondeos are no worse than each other to run, your talking about a tenner here and a tenner there.
 
Seriously mate be an expert on what you are an expert on, Saabs and Mondeos are no worse than each other to run, your talking about a tenner here and a tenner there.

I beleive you are wrong.

A Saab is, no matter how short it falls of the mark, a premium car. It is aimed at people buying Mercs and Audi's (And ends up hitting the market around about Volvo) not Fords and Vauxhalls. It's better built, it's better made, it has better performance and it has a higher end range of engines. Almost all of the engines offered are turbocharged for example, they don't seem to offer many if any bobby-basic normally aspirated 2 litre run-and-forget lumps. Mondeos are cheap, simple and cheerful provided you ignore diesels. Saabs are not - because if they were cheap, simple and cheerful then the intended target market of the car when new would have ignored it even more than they already did.

It is therefore a more expensive proposition to own than a run of the mill Ford, whether you like it or not. With the greatest amount of respect what classes as a 'tenner hear' and a 'tenner there' to you with the level of wealth you have is rather different to somebody scraping together 3k tops for a family car.

A Saab is an off-the-wall alternative to your usual Audi or Volvo, not a cheap family wagon for the family on a budget.
 
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[TW]Fox;18115838 said:
I beleive you are wrong.

A Saab is, no matter how short it falls of the mark, a premium car. It is aimed at people buying Mercs and Audi's (And ends up hitting the market around about Volvo) not Fords and Vauxhalls. It's better built, it's better made, it has better performance and it has a higher end range of engines.

It is therefore a more expensive proposition to own than a run of the mill Ford, whether you like it or not.

Well here we are agreeing to disagree again, i dont care who it was aimed at any competent garage can and do work on them for the same money as they charge for a Ford.

Im even now careful of what i say about the odd tenner, and i wished you happy new year in trust .... snubbed :(
 
Problem with agreeing to disagree on the internet on this is that if Mr 'I only have £3k for a car' runs out and buys a Saab 9-5 Estate with a 2.0T engine and then suddenly finds it's a complete nightmare in our world of £1.20 a litre fuel etc etc then we can sit here and laugh yet he's stuck with the thing...

He wants a cheap family estate not a 200bhp 'premium' car.
 
[TW]Fox;18115863 said:
Problem with agreeing to disagree on the internet on this is that if Mr 'I only have £3k for a car' runs out and buys a Saab 9-5 Estate with a 2.0T engine and then suddenly finds it's a complete nightmare in our world of £1.20 a litre fuel etc etc then we can sit here and laugh yet he's stuck with the thing...

He wants a cheap family estate not a 200bhp 'premium' car.

My daughter says im drunk and need to get ready soon, she says happy new year to you all by the way :)
 
Fox, not everybody wants a Mondeo. It doesn't matter if they've got £3k to spend or 30, they may want alternatives

Like I said earlier, people who jump to the default Fiesta/Focus/Mondeo suggestion seem to be quick to forget that people sometimes (and often do) ill-rationally discount cars that seem ideal on paper because they just flat out don't like them (even when spending ***** amounts of money). I did it when picking my first car, everyone and his neighbour told me to get a 1.25 Ford Fiesta, but I refused to consider them for a second because I didn't like them, despite the fact that I was only spending £800. If you don't like something you don't like it, your budget is rarely going to make people "settle" because to them what they are spending is a lot of money.

By your own words the Saab is a better built, better performing, better speced car for a similar outlay. I think you'd be mad not to give them a look just because from new they were marketed at a different audience to the "safe" option.
 
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