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replacing thermal paste & warranty

The answer HIS would give you is yes it will. However a lot of people do this or add aftermarket coolers. From my knowledge but not experiance, if you open the card up and add the paste carefully enough the manufacturer will not be able to tell, at least that is what most modders will say. I have spare MX-3 lying around and am considering doing the same thing.
 
I dont see how they can tell.... Surely you should be able to change the thermal paste.. I have heard of some RMA's getting rejected because too much dust was found in the cooler so airflow was restriceted.... How are you supposed to be able to deal with these issues if it invalidates your warranty. Also as someone who does replace TIM almost always on recieving a new card I can say it almost always significantly drops the temps!
 
The way graphics coolers are built these days there's also an element of risking physical damage, if your card is overheating the best thing you can do is RMA it.

If your card is running too hot because you flashed it to 6970 well that's your own fault, it might be that your GPU core has high electrical leakage which is why AMD made it into a 6950 in the first place in which case better thermal paste is unlikely to make much difference.
 
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Screws tend to be sealed on cards, making it very easy to tell if someone opened one or not. I still thinks it's deliberate, the uses of crappy tim (applied poorly), to entice customers to buy the custom cooler versions.

Replacing the crappy tim supplied with something like mx-3 will drop temps at least 10c which is why it's so bloody annoying.
 
mmj_uk said:
The way graphics coolers are built these days there's also an element of risking physical damage, if your card is overheating the best thing you can do is RMA it.

If your card is running too hot because you flashed it to 6970 well that's your own fault, it might be that your GPU core has high electrical leakage which is why AMD made it into a 6950 in the first place in which case better thermal paste is unlikely to make much difference.
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i have a 6850 so i cant flash to 6970, that would be magical lmao, its just the temps are a little higher then i would like them to be and i know replacing the thermal paste will drop them :)
 
mmj_uk said:
The way graphics coolers are built these days there's also an element of risking physical damage, if your card is overheating the best thing you can do is RMA it.

If your card is running too hot because you flashed it to 6970 well that's your own fault...
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And when your GPU cooler is too loud it's your fault - you shouldn't pick up card with a loud cooler. But wait a minute - what if you wanted a really high-end GPU with as much horse-power as possible ? Well then again - your fault because you shouldn't want such high-end card. 250W+ TDP monsters and quiet on stock cooler simply don't go together - you should know better. But if you insist then you could probably try some aftermarket cooler however then you will logically lose warranty. It's logical, because why would manufacturers want you to change their perfect stock cooler designs ? Definitely no point in that - since they are so perfect and the TIM is also applied so perfectly that there is no chance you could ever EVER need anything better. So you can change the stock cooler for an inferior aftermarket but they'll punish you with warranty void. That's again your fault - because why the hack do you need to change stock coolers when everything about them is so perfect ?
 
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well it could be the a very badly worded recipe for Christmas cake, or instructions on how to change the oil filter on a ford mondeo.....:rolleyes:

now you might notice a little face with his eyes looking skyward, that when you mouse over it it says rolleyes (sarcastic).


yes this is a post that is simply sarcastic.




ps when are people going to get it into their heads, you buy a product, if you modify it in any way you have to expect to void the warranty, this includes disassembly, changing the bios and yes even overclocking. now of course somethings are much more difficult to detect than others such as overclocking.
 
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ps when are people going to get it into their heads, you buy a product, if you modify it in any way you have to expect to void the warranty, this includes disassembly, changing the bios and yes even overclocking. now of course somethings are much more difficult to detect than others such as overclocking.
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As you might have already deduced - my complaint here is not ONLY that you can not modify the cooler without warranty void BUT MAINLY that the stock coolers usually suck pretty much WHILE AT THE SAME TIME you void the warranty if you replace them, SO BASICALLY that card manufacturers simply don't offer any reasonable alternatives for people who want quiet on air without warranty void - and I mean really quiet, not quiet as if some reviewers will subjectively write "GTX 580 cooler has undergone some serious changes from 4xx series and the noise didn't bother us at all most of the time" etc.
 
EVGA will allow you to remove the stock cooler without voiding the warranty, as long as you put it back on if you have to RMA. I'm not aware of any other manufacturer who will let you do this. Worth bearing in mind next time you purchase a card.
 
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Not according to their own mods: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=741202
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Well, is he official EVGA representative or just mod ? It doesn't sound too convincing to me. I mean if you bought it in some EU shop and then RMAed it in the same shop, wouldn't they object despite the EVGA policy ? I think they would. I have some conflicting information on this - I've also read someone else writing that EVGA's RMA policy does not apply to Netherlands (or maybe it was some different EU country) So what I am supposed to believe ? I have based my purchase decision under impression that EVGAs RMA policy regarding cooler replacements is not guaranteed within EU and also on the simple fact that EVGAs were out of stock everywhere.
 
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From the General conditions of warranty (http://eu.evga.com/support/warranty/#general):
The product is returned to EVGA in the original factory configuration and condition. All aftermarket modification must be reversed before sending in the product for replacement.

You can RMA directly back to EVGA: http://eu.evga.com/articles/00602/
Cards are available on OcUK but you pay a premium. This is why.
 
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As you might have already deduced - my complaint here is not ONLY that you can not modify the cooler without warranty void BUT MAINLY that the stock coolers usually suck pretty much WHILE AT THE SAME TIME you void the warranty if you replace them, SO BASICALLY that card manufacturers simply don't offer any reasonable alternatives for people who want quiet on air without warranty void - and I mean really quiet, not quiet as if some reviewers will subjectively write "GTX 580 cooler has undergone some serious changes from 4xx series and the noise didn't bother us at all most of the time" etc.
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Well, the only "legitmate" solution would be to wait until the card you want is well into it's life cycle: At that point manufacturers often release versions with better coolers when they're trying to make their products stand out from the crowd.

The stock coolers are so crappy because they all want to get their cards released as soon as possible. Nobody is going to intentionally lose out on early sales just after release by holding back their cards whilst they design a better cooler.

Personally I'd like things to work the same as CPU's. Manufacturers releasing OEM cards with no cooling at all, and leaving it up to the user to sort out a solution. You'd only get an OEM warranty, but that's better than no warranty at all after you've invalidated it.
 
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