Multi car pile up on the motorway

OK I'll be the first to say I don't pitty the poor Insignia driver quite as much as everyone else seems to! Of course it's ultimately the twerp in the Ka's fault, but Mr Insignia shouldn't have still been doing the speed limit past a braking queue of cars in the other lane who were already down to 30-35mph. What happens every, every, every time a lane slows down? Yep - chancers dive out into the faster lane. Due care and attention, driving appropriately for the circumstances etc etc etc.

Glad nobody was seriously hurt of course. Live and learn :)
 
A627M lovely part of the world linking Oldham to Rochdale, feel you're pain hope they took you to oldham a&e quite a good hospital spent many a time in there with injuries! Hope they find the KA but my experience with GMP Traffic there leg work isn't what it should be!

Hope the whip cash gives you a good payout. Thank god it wasn't your own motor!

Get well soon
 
Liampope said:
Of course it's ultimately the twerp in the Ka's fault, but Mr Insignia shouldn't have still been doing the speed limit past a braking queue of cars in the other lane who were already down to 30-35mph.
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How can you be so certain without actually being there?
 
Not surprised the Ka managed to drive away from the scene. The Ka has space in front of it when it gets hit from behind unlike all the following vehicles who are hard on the brakes driving into a wall of metal. I remember when I was a toddler we had a box volvo estate and a car had crashed into the back of us on the motorway, the volvo got away with a scratch on the bumper and the car behind was a write off. Apparently I slept throughout the whole accident :p


Blame and compo aside, hope you have a swift recovery.
 
sigma said:
How can you be so certain without actually being there?
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To be honest it's a fair bet. We've all seen people dive out of slow moving queues on Motorways when the lane beside is moving faster so it wasn't exactly shock of the century when some burk in a Ka did exactly that.
 
[TW]Fox;18158691 said:
To be honest it's a fair bet. We've all seen people dive out of slow moving queues on Motorways when the lane beside is moving faster so it wasn't exactly shock of the century when some burk in a Ka did exactly that.
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It could have happened in a matter of seconds though and the Insignia may have been slowing down anyway, just not lamping the brakes on to slow down.
 
rG-tom said:
it's down to what you're used to though, im not saying the car was unfit for purpose, im saying it reacted considerably different than I'm used to....
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It comes across very much like you are trying to blame the car in some ways. I am very sorry this happened to you but your posting style in that area could make some less sympathetic. It's grating just like when people claim that merging onto a motorway in a 1.2 Corsa made them feel unsafe because it did not have the power their 3.0 V8 had.
 
I am blaming my unfamilarity with the car, not the car itself, just like if i got caught short on an overtake with it, it's my fault for not knowing the car couldn't do it, not the cars fault for being slow
 
I drive a Honda S2000 and borrowed my brothers Insight to drive to Scotland over Christmas - very different cars I'm sure you would agree, and despite pretty lame brakes I managed to avoid a crash on a very busy M6.
A Mercedes that hit snow in the outside lane and wipe out the van in the middle lane that was infront of the mondeo infront of me, the Merceded did 2 360s, the van went sideways and bits of car were everywhere. No one else ended up involved and I have no idea how the Merc didnt hit the central reservation.

Drive to the car's limits would be my suggestion.
 
rG-tom said:
I am blaming my unfamilarity with the car, not the car itself, just like if i got caught short on an overtake with it, it's my fault for not knowing the car couldn't do it, not the cars fault for being slow
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In that case, you certainly should have not been going as fast and left more space. Of course, hindsight is a wonderful thing! You escaped unharmed, lesson learnt.
 
Simon said:
Drive to the car's limits would be my suggestion.
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Drive to the limits of the car, yourself and the conditions to add a little more :D

Thread got interesting with that huge volley from Fox.

Lessons for everyone, I'm still hoping the Ka gets caught though, although unlikely.
 
rG-tom said:
I am blaming my unfamilarity with the car
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I'm blaming your crap driving. Be truthful now - you know as well as I do your driving style is aggresive. It's partly what attacts you to cares the 330i in the first place. You know why I posted my opening post in this thread in the way I did. You know how you treated the 335i loan car, it's amazing you didnt bury that in a tree or something.

You drive to the conditions and that includes the car you are driving. If you dont, you crash, but you crash because your driving at that moment totally sucked. The fact you rely on the extra braking performance a 330i gives you on a typical Motorway journey to work speaks for itself.

And I say that not as somebody who is holier than thou, but as somebody who knows very well what happens when your driving sucks.

The correct way forward is to go 'oops' and in future, treat this as a massive wakeup call. Because you are not badly hurt, and you are not dead, something which was becoming increasingly inevitable as time went on.
 
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