Dawn of War II: Retribution

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Yeah, the price is a bit rich for current owners imo but still, I like the idea of playing all the races in the campaign. Will probably pick it up if I can find it cheaper than rrp. I didn't like the original all that much to begin with as coming from CoH it seemed a bit dumbed down but it grew on me eventually.
 
Forget an expansion to Dawn of War 2, the population cap, the lack of new units and only slighly improved gameplay make it not worth a tenner in my opinion.

I say they should make a Company of Heroes 2 game focussing on the Eastern Front (Russians as playable race !!!) or North Aafrica campaign's.

The last decent Dawn of War game was released three years ago, called Dark Crusade. Since then we've had to pay more for literally less...Wheres the Tau, the Necron's? Why has it taken them two exapnsions to reintroduced a dumbed down Imperial Guard, which will probably have 2 tanks tops...?

As far as I am concerned Relic has lost it's way in this series. They focus on heroes way to much, and forget the broad spectrum of races and units that we were allowed to use before...but are now a dim memory after the damp squib of DOW 2.

The same happened with Supreme Commander 2, dumbed down less choice, and worse storylines, damaging a once thriving community. Bye bye epic battles and hello and squint at the few cool looking units left.
 
I find it odd that they are calling it a stand alone game yet not renaming it DOW3, or similar for marketing effect, it seems billed just as a very expensive expansion in its current form.
 
£30 for the game and one of the race packs on steam
£40 for the collectors edition from THQ with all the race packs (possibly elsewhere too)
£50 for the gold edition with the original


This is almost as expensive as the hobby itself.
 
Shamikebab said:
What I don't get is why they don't make a game that's actually like the table top game. You could pick your army before hand from the army list, gearing them up the way you wanted. Then it could be turn based, it would be damn good and would really set itself out from all the cookie cutter RTS games out there.
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Mark of Chaos is the fantasy version of that except it wasn't turn-based. Very average game though.

Loosecannon said:
£30 for the game and one of the race packs on steam
£40 for the collectors edition from THQ with all the race packs (possibly elsewhere too)
£50 for the gold edition with the original


This is almost as expensive as the hobby itself.
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I was having a look at prices the other day and oh my word they are extortionate, I used to play 6/7 years ago and it was bad but now they're outrageous.
 
StewartMG said:
Mark of Chaos is the fantasy version of that except it wasn't turn-based. Very average game though.
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Mark of Chaos was ok, never had as much interest in Warhammer though. I just think making these an RTS takes away a lot of what makes the Table top game great. We've had DOW1 + 3 expansions and now DOW2 + 2 expansions, why not try something completely different for 3?
 
StewartMG said:
I used to play 6/7 years ago and it was bad but now they're outrageous.
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Money devalues (read halves) roughly every 8 years :p

If they really have ditched gfwl, which has been booting me and others at random since launch, $*** voip and their crappy friends system, for steam, then they might actually get more fo the original dow players back (like me :D).
 
I don't like how strategy games are going . DOW 2 was sort of fun but it was more like a dress up my soldier/point and click adventure to be honest.

Nothing like 40K should be. They turned an IP that was basically the epitome of the word 'epic' and made it small.
 
Aye, I prefered the more traditional style of DOW1 more than 2 as well, even if DoW did devolve into throw the biggest units at each other.

I always found it strange they chose to release Tyranids as a race in DoW2, which focuses on a smaller scale, rather than 1 which focused on larger scale, as quite frankly Tyranids suffer worse from lack of scale even worse than orks.
Just completely defeats the object of them being there, beyond showing something different. It's not like you can show off 'horde' or 'swarm' within the limitations of DoW2.
 
I suppose that by Soulstorm they had taken the first game as far as they could (best incarnation for me was Dark Crusade as the bases stayed!) but I didn't like DoW2 half as much - seemed to be even less realistic than the first one - and I found the 'boss' battles mega-tedious. So in short not greatly anticipating the expansion.
 
Funny I preferred DOW2, to me the first was just another RTS. Bought all the games in the series. I agree that crusade was the best of the first series.

Really liked the DOW2 expansion all be a little short. Certainly got my monies worth with I suspect a fair challenge on higher levels replying it all again.
 
I never understood the attraction of Dark Crusade. It was all just random map skirmishes. I tried a few times to get into it, but the fact that your space marines had to put down the imperial guard always annoyed me :)
 
I got all the DOW games in the THQ pack during the summer and I have have been steadily working my way through them.

I think DOW2 is a great game, it is just very different to the original series. (kind of like CIv4 -Civ5 both good games but very different). I can see why some people might not like the change of direction but I think it is good that they tried something new.

I am currently a couple of missions away from finishing DOW2, having raced through it yesterday. Personally I found the RPG equipment collecting aspect has made it more addictive.
 
rjkoneill said:
the DOW series has always had [and retained] these massive prices though
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Dunno about that, I got DoW Anthology for £14.99 about 3.5 years ago when it was relatively new (long before Soulstorm came out). OK so if you want to rush out and buy the latest and greatest it may cost you, but I certainly wouldn't say they retain massive prices that long. Even DoW2 Gold costs under a tenner brand new.
 
I'll get the collectors edition to get all of the extra stuff for the sake of choice (don't like the idea of choosing, say, Imperial Guard, when its not possible to play them yet until the expansions out), except I don't see it available for pre-order on the site. All the others, except the collectors edition.

On the bright side, at least GFWL is gone.
 
DoW II complete with the free extra's and Chaos Rising addon is one of the best RTS/RPG games you can buy and I'll defo be ordering the CE of Retribution!!!

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I don't quite get the tagline "Choose to build a massive army or lead your small squad of elite heroes into battle!"

The latter sums up the current DoW II. The first statement gives the impression they are going to give you the option of building large armies, which I'd love to see happen, but I can't actually find any information on it. The only thing I did find, which is on the wiki page without a source so may not be true either, is this:

"Multiplayer will introduce base building to a small degree, as well as every race getting a Global Ability Advance Unit."

I look through the official forums and all it is is discussion of new units. Surely the idea of changing a gameplay mechanic as important as squad cap would be the kind of thing which gets people talking?
 
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