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You got her number?
Do people still find pornography exploitative?
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You got her number?
You're not being offensive, really.
Yes it is possibly more about how I feel - because that's all I have experience of. Sorry if I wrote it as if that's the way /all/ women feel about it, as that's patently not true.
However, I find it hard to believe that I am alone in thinking and feeling the way I do. As much as I'd like to believe that I am unique - I bet I'm not the only one.
not all women feel like they are being 'invaded' by the wang during consented sex, there are women that do actually enjoy the sensation believe it or not, women that don't feel that they are being 'exploited' by the wang, women that actually welcome the wang now and again, some that even demand it
, we're not living in the 1950's any more.
Hah, clearly I've given the wrong impression! I'm a half Swedish, fairly open-minded independent woman - and have never felt 'invaded' in my life. I have however felt under pressure, and it was unpleasant.
I was trying to highlight the idea that welcoming a wang in, is a bigger deal than owning one and sticking it somewhere. It's not like it's an appendage - it's right up inside and there's nowhere more personal than that.
*sigh* maybe I am just slowly creeping into an older generation, and I'm more conservative than I think. I just do worry about all these things becoming more and more 'normal' and teenagers getting funny ideas about what they should expect.
I agree and struggle to see how others in this thread are failing to understand.
Still, it's jolly good fun, eh?
I still think you're making may too much of a deal out of this. Still, if you feel this way, that's little that you can do about it. You can't speak for all women though, which is what lowrider was saying. For a lot of women it's not such a big deal.
Yes, I'd say you've answered your own point.
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And lots of people are at work but don't want to be. I don't see that people doing porn, despite them rather doing something else is necessarily a problem.
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Aha, wow. Anti-feminist.
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It always makes me smile when I read that pornography and prostitution is based on the exploitation of women .
It's men with their weak will who have to satisfy their naturally inbuilt desire to seek sexual outlets that are the truly exploited.
However I can only say 'bring it on'
It's men with their weak will who have to satisfy their naturally inbuilt desire to seek sexual outlets that are the truly exploited.
However I can only say 'bring it on'
No. Post feminist. If women choose to do a particular job, even if they don't find it enjoyable, then that's fine. It's only a problem when they're coerced in some way.
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Well to be fair after reading the following post I think you can see why I might of came to that conclusion,
The term invasive is not a welcome one imo, it literary means invading which is a harmful thing, personally I don't think we are being invasive, I find that insulting myself, sex between two consenting adults for the most part is a shared equal experience.
Again I disagree here, I don't like that your trying to make out women are the oppressed ones here when it comes to sex, that we are invading some sacred personal space that is of higher personal value than that of a man's.
A butt plug is hardly a big deal but I get your point and I do agree to an extent but what I don't like is when we start talking about women (or men for that matter) as some kind of separate collective with a hive mind, they like us are independent people with the ability to think/feel differently to everyone else, I feel it's wrong to assume because I am a man that I know how every man feels, the same goes for women, I don't think we're giving individuality enough credit here.
Like I said not all women feel the same way as Sarah does, not all women's boundary for sexual 'exploration' is going to be the same (the same for men), and certainly not all women feel like they are being 'invaded' by the wang during consented sex, there are women that do actually enjoy the sensation believe it or not
Take anal sex for example, that has always been a controversial one, there a some women out there that will argue that other women only do it please the man thus being unwillingly submissive due to pier pressure or fear the results of not giving their partner what they want, but actually type "Do women enjoy anal sex" into google and have a good read from many women that have very interesting contrasting opinions on this topic, you may be rather surprised, I was when one of my ex's actually asked for it, no hint from me at all, in fact to this very day I think she was waiting for me to ask so then it would have seemed like she was doing me the favour when actually she enjoyed it.
Although there is no doubt that men and women as a divided group have their own collective understanding of each other and common grounds I think on both sides of the camp men and women are becoming more independent, more people are stepping outside of the 'gender' box with more 'masculine' females and more 'feminine' men it's harder to judge a particular sex collectively these days, I think it's an inevitable part of the human evolutionary process leading us into a more androgynous future.
Of course women and men are not just women and men, I would never debate that (personally I question the sanctified status of gender as an established fact a la Beaudrillard). And I agree that the proliferation of new sexualities and genders helps draw the power from dominant discourses about sex and sexuality (ref Butler and Foucault), but the fact remains that they still exist. It's just a buttplug? Try starting a thread saying you discovered that buttplugs are awesome and everyone should try it. It may be that many of us are missing out, but I'd say it's safe to assume the replies would most consist of "gay" and "+1", not "thank for the heads up". The status quo is still firmly in place, despite the illusion of liberation.
I like the idea that my wang can invade... like a tank. Awesome. This has changed dress-up night with my gf dramatically
