I have this with Vodafone. When BT initially sold us out to them, it happened every night at 10:10, drove me nuts as I was usually playing an mmo. Their support were no use whatsoever, but I eventually realised it was a timeout on their end, and that by turning my router off and back on at different times I could change when it disconnected. I think I ended up turning off the router at around 5pm, and I don't get the disconnect anymore, it's probably set to do it during the night at some point.
Ubisoft still don't get it do they?
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I have this with Vodafone. When BT initially sold us out to them, it happened every night at 10:10, drove me nuts as I was usually playing an mmo. Their support were no use whatsoever, but I eventually realised it was a timeout on their end, and that by turning my router off and back on at different times I could change when it disconnected. I think I ended up turning off the router at around 5pm, and I don't get the disconnect anymore, it's probably set to do it during the night at some point.
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While I'm against DRM generally, I don't care as long as I get to play the game. I'd prefer no DRM, but I'm never going to let it stop me buying a game I want.
This "3 more activations after 30 days" seems fine to me, it's pretty tame compared to the always online jobby that ubi have been using.
How many people are really going to burn through an activation a month?
This "3 more activations after 30 days" seems fine to me, it's pretty tame compared to the always online jobby that ubi have been using.
How many people are really going to burn through an activation a month?
But its the ridiculous way they did it thats the problem. 3 activations a month is very unlikely to cause a problem though it shouldn't be there in the first place. Thats 1 activation on a home computer, 1 activation on a laptop and 1 spare incase something goes to hell. But yet again Ubisoft pick the most retarded way they could have implementing it meaning that if you install it twice and have no problems, then upgrade or format and reinstall it, then have a problem with that install you suddenly get ****ed over by having to wait 30 days for absolutely no reason.
Seriously if i had to wait 30 days to install a game i own then i would never buy an Ubisoft title ever again.
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Ive never let drm affect my decision to buying a game and ive never had any problems with drm with any games I have bought.
Theres far too much hoo hah about drm, its a non issue for me.
Theres far too much hoo hah about drm, its a non issue for me.
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I still fail to see how this is more retarded than some of the other systems with activation limits. At least at the end of the day you get these activations back unlike a lot of methods.
Tbh, if you find yourself having to blat windows that often I'd be more worried about other things on my PC than waiting 30 days to play a game. 3 activations/month should be more than enough for personal use, unless you're installing your mates machines. DRM sucks no matter what, this isn't as bad as most though.
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lol, excellent
Nope, just a disc check, though the game does try to phone home to a non-existent server for some reason (possibly an early DRM experiment) which can cause the game to hitch occasionally. Easily fixed by denying the exe internet access in your firewall.
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None at all. Only disk checking
Yeah but its not 3 per month is it, or so i understand it. Its 3 activations, then you have to wait 30 days for it to renew (hurray for arbitrary numbers). So you could install it on 2 systems, then wait half a year and make changes to the pc that require a reinstall and something goes wrong and suddenly you're high and dry for 30 days without the game you paid for. Theres nothing unusual about that. If it was 3 activations per month then yes its unlikely to cause problems (its also unlikely to do anything in the slightest...).
I simply do not understand those that support or have no problems with this kind of restrictive DRM.
I BOUGHT the game. Why should I, a honest paying customer, have to jump through hoops to play it, while the pirate gets a better experience with less hassle??
I think it's well established by now DRM does nothing to stop piracy, in fact the more restrictive the DRM the more attention it get's to being cracked ASAP.
DRM free games sell very well. And it's hard to prove, but I bet draconian DRM does nothing to increase sales, but actually lose sales from those that are against it.
I BOUGHT the game. Why should I, a honest paying customer, have to jump through hoops to play it, while the pirate gets a better experience with less hassle??
I think it's well established by now DRM does nothing to stop piracy, in fact the more restrictive the DRM the more attention it get's to being cracked ASAP.
DRM free games sell very well. And it's hard to prove, but I bet draconian DRM does nothing to increase sales, but actually lose sales from those that are against it.
I've had this happen before on a few games, where I've had hardware failures and reached my activation limit. Having to wait two days to play a game once you've raised a support ticket is very annoying the first time, majorly annoying the second time, and the third time 'round I simply vowed never to purchase another game with such restrictive DRM.
Even if the next game released with activation limitations is the best game ever made, I just won't buy it.
I ****ing hate DRM.
I'm not sure if it is this specific implimentation, but I know some of them wait until you use all 3 activations, then you get 1 activation back every 30 days, so it would actually take 3 months to get the three activations back.
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It's this I believe, but it still doesn't really bother me.
I don't support DRM, but when it doesn't effect me I'm happy enough to ignore it.
I understand that there probably are people that can clog up/break their machine multiple times in a month and need to reinstall windows. I'm not one of them, therefore I'm not sure why I should care about this?
DRMs here now, we're stuck with it. I'd rather take the lesser of two evils any day. This is nothing compared to Ubi's online only, and activation limits where you can't reclaim keys.
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I'm not one of them either, but that's hardly the point. What about your rights as a paying consumer? You pay money, but the publisher remains in control. That doesn't bother you even a little?
You have to draw the line somewhere otherwise these companies will take more and more liberties. I object to being treated like a pirate by default, when I'm actually paying them for the game. While the pirated version of the game will probably play and reinstall no problem. It's the principle of them treating their customers all wrong.
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I'd agree... If the DRM affected me for any game in question.
I dislike the "Always Online" DRM as I've been dropped from game whilst downloading.
I can't see myself ever being affect by the DRM in question though, so I don't mind it.
As long as it's not malware or similar and it's not affecting me playing the game, I couldn't care less.
I think this thread proves why DRM in all its insidious forms is here to stay for the forseeable future. There are so many people who just don't understand the underlying issue, and these are the people that companies like Ubisoft will continue to exploit and use to keep their coffers full. It's inevitable that this punishes the ones that are rightly outraged.