Who knows what about the BMW 6 series?

Participant · 15 Jan 2011 at 23:34

This is literally five minutes from my door. £17.5k, 70k miles. I've had an inexplicable boner for this ugly duckling for many years now, and too long have we been a one car household.

I'm going to go and see it on Monday night, and was hoping for some experience of what to watch out for. In particular; the list price and what I should be haggling towards, what your opinions are of the spec, model, and anything else you might have a view on.

I would be paying approx. £10k cash, settling the balance with a credit card (though I'll try to skip around this until we've settled on a price).

Here are some pics. I do love that interior.

Many thanks.

Adz · 15 Jan 2011 at 23:50

Definitely a car which looks better from the inside than the outside. I'd still quite happily own one.

With a BMW V8 and 70k miles I'd want nothing less than impeccable history. I'd start the negotiation at £16k. Don't forget though that, if you're paying the balance on a credit card, the dealer is going to lose 2-3% in card processing fees.

peterattheboro · 16 Jan 2011 at 00:21

Far far far superior to your Golf in every way bar running costs obviously.

I'll forgive you for spending £20,000 on a Golf 1.4 if you buy this

panthro · 16 Jan 2011 at 00:53

Adz said:
Definitely a car which looks better from the inside than the outside. I'd still quite happily own one.

With a BMW V8 and 70k miles I'd want nothing less than impeccable history. I'd start the negotiation at £16k. Don't forget though that, if you're paying the balance on a credit card, the dealer is going to lose 2-3% in card processing fees.

Or he would charge you the extra 2-3% as a card handling fee?

Joshy · 16 Jan 2011 at 02:51

Spamalot said:
Honestly... just because you can't afford said car doesn't make it an epic thread! Dont be a Fox.

Oh please.

My personal finances have got precisely **** all to do with this thread and what could potentially make this thread epic. A large chuck of it is being financed as well, so it's all swings and roundabouts on the "You can't afford it, LOL" front as far as I'm concerned because either can he, but that is not my point.

This is exactly the same man who little over a week ago was having a full on moan about large engined cars in order to support his 1.4 Golf related willy waving (exactly what a £17,000 Golf has to do with a £180 Rover I do not). Now he's been completely converted because an ageing Prestige car with 70,000 miles on the clock has popped up a a local car dealer. Does that not seem a bit odd/stupid to you?

Actually, to support my argument, lets roll out a golden quote from that thread:

Robbie G said:
A large engined car with large engined servicing costs would be entirely wasted on me

And before you whine about me potentially quoting out of context he may have been referring to using a large engined car on his commute. All 8 miles of it. I will tell you right now that the type of person who sweats at additional servicing and fuelling costs for a 8 mile commute so much so that it puts them into a 1.4 Volkswagen typically isn't the type of person who should be considering a 650i.

Cheap 6 series have been discussed here before and the general feeling is that they are cheap for a reason - The people who can afford to run one don't want one and the people who do want them can't afford to run one properly. The OP seems like a textbook example of the later. Add that with the Rover thread, his general attitude and the fact that he has chosen an example with so much mileage getting a half decent warranty without a massive excess/restriction(s) is going to be a battle and you've got the recipe for an epic thread.

I honestly don't care if the above makes me look like a ****, or makes me a 'fox clone' or whatever. People being hypocrites ****es me off.

Scania · 16 Jan 2011 at 03:19

'tis a bargain.

zetec452 · 16 Jan 2011 at 03:24

What warranty could you get for the car? My big worry would be bills.

When did motors turn into a financial advisers forum?

Gaygle · 16 Jan 2011 at 07:29

Why would you want to get rid of ur technically superior 1.4 Golf for a stupid old BMW?!
Anyway, not 2 weeks ago u were saying that 'nobody needs that power' and basically saying V8s were out because they used too much fuel?

Seriously, is this a joke thread? Everything you have slagged off in a car in the past is featured in that car.

EDIT: I think Joshy has put my point over perfectly.

Participant · 16 Jan 2011 at 08:54

peterattheboro said:
Far far far superior to your Golf in every way bar running costs obviously.

I'll forgive you for spending £20,000 on a Golf 1.4 if you buy this

£17k

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JonRohan said:
What warranty could you get for the car? My big worry would be bills.

A big bill is a distinct possibility and I'd imagine a warranty, if even available, might be fairly expensive. Maybe I should be looking at 3.0s instead...not sure of the extent to which these are more expensive to run than their smaller engines counterparts.

Gaygle said:
Why would you want to get rid of ur technically superior 1.4 Golf for a stupid old BMW?!

I'm not getting rid of my technically superior 1.4 Golf though :confused:

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DM · 16 Jan 2011 at 08:59

Dont forget to sort out a warranty, its got a few extra miles bid him 16k and see what he says.

Participant · 16 Jan 2011 at 09:08

DiamondMark said:
Dont forget to sort out a warranty, its got a few extra miles bid him 16k and see what he says.

Yeah I'm banking on getting at least 6 months from the dealer and then going third party.

Joshy · 16 Jan 2011 at 09:10

Robbie G said:
Maybe I should be looking at 3.0s instead...not sure of the extent to which these are more expensive to run than their smaller engines counterparts.

And here is yet another clue that you may not have thought this through properly.

If you are still caught up in that sort of mentality that choosing a smaller engine is going to significantly lower repair bills then running ANY 6 series is going to be a bit of a wake up call for you.

Generally speaking mechanicals are a simple fix when compared to finding and rectifying what could possibility go wrong on something as complex as a BMW 6 series.

Robbie G said:
Yeah I'm banking on getting at least 6 months from the dealer and then going third party.

What third party? I assume many of the places who'll hand out a warranty for a car like this worth the paper it is written on isn't going to be interested in one with 70k+ miles on the clock.

Tesla · 16 Jan 2011 at 09:13

I imagine a set of tyres is £1000-£1200?

If running costs are of a concern this is not the car for you.

EDIT - Thought it had 19's like a friends 645 but they're 18's. Still, around £1k. A set of tyres for your golf is likely £400?

DM · 16 Jan 2011 at 09:19

Im not sure why Robbie being dug out here, he's already said the Golf is staying, so this is a weekend toy so engine size dosent really matter.

Or is it too early and i read that wrong.

As for the warranty it dosent matter which one they give him for 6 months because its down to them to fix it anyway, what he needs is a BMW warranty on that if he can get one, or the one Fox has some success with if not.

Participant · 16 Jan 2011 at 09:30

Tesla said:
I imagine a set of tyres is £1000-£1200?

If running costs are of a concern this is not the car for you.

EDIT - Thought it had 19's like a friends 645 but they're 18's. Still, around £1k. A set of tyres for your golf is likely £400?

Yeah about £100 a corner for the Potenzas on there at the moment. I found this out when I got a puncture in the first week of ownership

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DiamondMark said:
Im not sure why Robbie being dug out here, he's already said the Golf is staying, so this is a weekend toy so engine size dosent really matter.

Or is it too early and i read that wrong.

As for the warranty it dosent matter which one they give him for 6 months because its down to them to fix it anyway, what he needs is a BMW warranty on that if he can get one, or the one Fox has some success with if not.

The plan is that the wife will continue to commute in any car she likes, I will take the other car or cycle, whatever I decide on the day.

The reason for wanting a new car at all, is that cycling to work in the cold and the damp has become tiring so I want another car for the days when I just can't be bothered. The reason for wanting a GT is that we already have a dull practical car, and I'd quite like to own something more fun yet still comfortable, to go away in at the weekend.

Joshy · 16 Jan 2011 at 09:37

shifty_uk said:
Quite a while ago. As I've mentioned in previous threads, it begins as relatively sensible advice coming from the more astute members such as Fox but quickly becomes a bandwagon for the lesser so to jump on and ends up ruining threads.

I assume that this is a bit of a swipe at me :rolleyes:

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I've got precisely zero interest in discussing car financing because it is not something that remotely interests me. What I am interested in is a man dramatically changing the tune that he was singing incredibility loudly little over a week ago. The same man who a little over a week ago effectively said that higher running and servicing costs put him off having a bigger engined car than a 1.4 Volkswagen on his epic 8 mile commute. The same who a little over a week ago was slagging off people with big engined cars, but has conveniently "forgotten" all of that. The same man who seemingly cannot comprehend just how expensive running something like this car is going to be, but it's okay, he'll just get a warranty. Yeah, I can see all of the warranty companies fighting over wanting to have a 4 year old complex prestige car with 70k+ miles on its books.

When you've got material this good to work with there is no use trying to drag a man's finances into it

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NickXX · 16 Jan 2011 at 09:41

It is a 630i? I would probably hold out for a v8 model if so - particularly if it's a second car.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2362033.htm

DM · 16 Jan 2011 at 09:42

Robbie G said:
The plan is that the wife will continue to commute in any car she likes, I will take the other car or cycle, whatever I decide on the day.

The reason for wanting a new car at all, is that cycling to work in the cold and the damp has become tiring so I want another car for the days when I just can't be bothered. The reason for wanting a GT is that we already have a dull practical car, and I'd quite like to own something more fun yet still comfortable, to go away in at the weekend.

I dont know or want to dig into your situation but think carefully about this then if you are going to be doing any sort of real miles in it.

NickXX · 16 Jan 2011 at 09:52

DiamondMark said:
I dont know or want to dig into your situation but think carefully about this then if you are going to be doing any sort of real miles in it.

I don't think these would be expensive cars to do miles in. The engines and running gear are shared with the e60 5 series - so running costs should be broadly similar.

Although with any bigger BMW, you should be prepared for the occasional £500+ bill.

DM · 16 Jan 2011 at 09:58

NickXX said:
I don't think these would be expensive cars to do miles in. The engines and running gear are shared with the e60 5 series - so running costs should be broadly similar.

Although with any bigger BMW, you should be prepared for the occasional £500+ bill.

I was talking about tyres and most of all petrol.

Anyway these are always hard to say anything without knowing where Robbies financial pain threshold lies

Me i dont care that i get 11 to the gallon, he might.