PC gamer Top 100 PC games Of All Time.

Problem I see with the original list is theres no merit to how a lot of those titles became popular in the first place... and the so-called magazine experts are tied to the apron strings of game developers, if they make a bad review, they won't get first dibs to look at new products

Couple examples without getting too carried away

Unreal Tournament should proberbly be placed higher, if epic supported/patched it better it'd still be widely played (ala original counter strike which still sees some form of support from valve)

Ultima Online should be up on that list, maybe one for the older games but if you played when mmorpg's first started showing up, you'll had heard about it. Similar story to UT... the developers did support the game, exept in the wrong ways (was originally a pretty hardcore dog-eat-dog gameplay that ended up carebear through ea's greed)

Final Fantasy ought to just be in that list as a series, as opposed to an individual title (and if it was, it would be 7, not 8) Its popular (albeit rare these days) enough to warrent a £50+ price tag for the original set of cds on the likes of ebay/amazon - I've seen mint condition boxes + the cd's go for £100+ ... good reason to dig around the bargain bin of cd/game shops actually if you use ebay :)

Could go on all day.... original post is a big reason why I stopped bothering with pc magazines long ago they feed people whatever they think they want to eat even if its tripe :)

All in all I would say don't take the official lists to heart because the harsh reality is your so-called experts aren't playing games recreationally, their doing it as a job, via set times...
Doesn't matter if you enjoy playing Doom or COD:BO if you enjoy playing it, who cares what the expert says :P

p.s. sensible soccer. Worms!
 
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Theres some complete toss in that Top 30, but then these lists always upset most people......

Totally agree about COD:UO whoever mentioned that ehehe.
 
Problem I see with the original list is theres no merit to how a lot of those titles became popular in the first place... and the so-called magazine experts are tied to the apron strings of game developers, if they make a bad review, they won't get first dibs to look at new products

+1

Or risk getting sued for causing potential loss of sales...

Any list is very subjective and it does seem to be based around the demographic of people buying the magazine now and the games releases of the last 4 - 5 years (i.e. mostly FPS, RPG and platform conversions - little or no decent simulations). There's a ton of stuff from the 90's I would put on there but due to being old MS-DOS or for outdated Windows systems they don't run on a contemporary PC. However that doesn't make them any less great relative to the vintage and we are talking "All Time". I would put titles like Longbow 2, TTDLX, RRT2, EF2000, FS2004, Wing Commander(s) etc. right up in the top ten but I bet many of those voting haven't even heard of those titles!
 
Seeing as you all hated the Top 60, I might aswell complete the list so that you can rant and rage 'til your hearts content. Not much of a strategy player myself so i'd have a lot more action adventure type stuff such as POP,Tomb Raider,Max Payne 2,Mafia,Psychonauts,GTA vice city(loved all of them,even 4).Giants Citizen Kabuto etc.Shooters too such as Far Cry.

61. Frontier:Elite 2 (1993)
62. Left 4 Dead 2 (2009)
63. Sim City 2000 (1993)
64. VVVVVV (2010)
65. Zeno Clash (2009)
66. Torchlight (2009)
67. Anchorhead (1998)
68. Dwarf Fortress (2006)
69. Flight Simulator 2004 (2003)
70. League Of Legends (2009)
71. Spelunky (2009)
72. Wing Commander III (1994)
73. Zuma's Revenge (2009)
74. Burnout Paradise (2009)
75. Sid Meiers Alpha Centurai (1994)
76. Baldurs Gate II (2000)
77. C&C Red Alert (1996)
78. Crysis. (2007)
79. Galactic Civilizations II (2006)
80. Grim Fandango (1998)
81. Kings Quest VI (1992)
82. Mechcommander (1998)
83. The Curse Of Monkey Island (1998)
84. Silent Hunter III (2005)
85. Sins Of A Solar Empire (2008)
86. Starcraft (1998)
87. Call Of Cthulhu: Dark Corners Of The Earth (2006)
88. Dungeon Siege (2002)
89. Gothic II (2002)
90. Mirrors Edge (2009)
91. Mount & Blade (2008)
92. Red Faction:Guerrilla (2009)
93. Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory (2005)
94. The Last Express (1997)
95. Audiosurf (2008)
96. Football Manager 2011 (2010)
97. Max Payne (2001)
98. Ultima Underworld II (1993)
99. Red Orchestra:Ostfront 41-45 (2006)
100. GTA IV (2008)

Zeno Clash @ 65, ahead of the likes of GTA, Max Payne, FM2011 and Crysis? :eek:
Wind-up chart, surely.
 
It's certainly terribly skewed toward games made in the last decade. My top ten for today.

1. BG2
2. Deus Ex
3. QFG IV
4. Elite
5. PES 3
6. X-Com
7. Morrowind
8. Civ IV
9. Another World
10.Magic Carpet
 
29. Supreme Commander 2 - WTF?

Supreme Commander 2 is awesome! Good to see AOE2 so high up in the list as well... but there are 5 games in that top 30 that I played and either couldn't get on with, or downright hated: Oblivion, TF2, Civ4, Mass Effect & Arma 2. I really don't get the love for TF2
 
No mention of the greatest multiplayer game of all time, TFC, yet TF2 is in at #4, lol. TF2 has about 10% of the depth TFC did. Conc maps, deathmatch, clanned, puzzle maps, they all had cult followings. TF2 is just a shallow, frustrating experience.

You should read some of the posts on TF forums when TFC was released. They all sounded very similar - TFC is a shallow, frustrating clone of TF. :)

Good to see TIE Fighter on the list. I loved that game.
 
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