Father and Son fight off knifeman and gunman

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Dont make me laugh, poverty? You get a free education, free healthcare, and the government wont just let you starve to death will they, more than enough financial help IS available if you need it. There are no areas in the UK that are 'ghettos'.

At the end of the day, it is a culture problem, there are no ghettos and nobody is poor or starving to death. Pussyfooting around the issue by being politically correct will never ever solve it. I mean you have even got the most left wing primeminister of modern memory and the leader of the party that introduced the concept 'multiculturalism' to the UK saying its a cultural problem.

Poverty is alive and well in the UK. Millions of people struggle to stay just above the breadline while tens of thousands live below it or are homeless. You're living in a middle class bubble. "No ghettos"? There are hundreds all across the country where you won't go at night. And would feel just as uncomfortable to go during the day. Usually in poverty stricken areas. There's areas of Belfast I won't go during the day or night. Areas of London, Glasgow, Liverpool, or every major city in the UK at night.

Of course it's a culture problem. It's a class culture problem. Pussy footing around it and blaming it on ethnicity will never solve it.
 
Poverty is alive and well in the UK. Millions of people struggle to stay just above the breadline while tens of thousands live below it or are homeless. You're living in a middle class bubble. "No ghettos"? There are hundreds all across the country where you won't go at night. And would feel just as uncomfortable to go during the day. Usually in poverty stricken areas. There's areas of Belfast I won't go during the day or night. Areas of London, Glasgow, Liverpool, or every major city in the UK at night.

Of course it's a culture problem. It's a class culture problem. Pussy footing around it and blaming it on ethnicity will never solve it.
I live in a middle class bubble? I probably grew up in one of those places you class as a ghetto in London. People arent roaming the street stealing from shops just so they can feed themselves, they roam the street stealing from shops and mug people so they can buy a new mobile phone. That isn't poverty.
 
Dont make me laugh, poverty? You get a free education, free healthcare, and the government wont just let you starve to death will they, more than enough financial help IS available if you need it. There are no areas in the UK that are 'ghettos'.

Depends on how you are taking the dictionary definition, but in some areas it is as close to ghetto as you could get.

At the end of the day, it is a culture problem, there are no ghettos

Hmmm.

and nobody is poor or starving to death.

Nobody is poor?

Ok.

http://www.poverty.org.uk/reports/mpse 2010.pdf

Can you explain that report to me if there are no people living under the poverty line in the UK?

Rowntree Foundation said:
By 2008/09, 13m people were in poverty. Of these, 5.8m (44% of the
total) were in ‘deep poverty’ (household income at least one-third below
the poverty line), the highest proportion on record.
• Despite the recession, the number of children in poverty in workless
families fell in 2008/09, to 1.6m, the lowest since 1984, but those in
working families rose slightly to 2.1m, the highest on record.

Pussyfooting around the issue by being politically correct will never ever solve it.

Where are the rivers of blood?

Anyway, no one apart from you has been pussyfooting about anything tonight I don't think?

You haven't discussed much with value, weight or intellect


I mean you have even got the most left wing primeminister of modern memory

How can you know?

All I've seen is a lot of talk and not much action.

Even the burning of the quangos fizzled out rapidly.

and the leader of the party that introduced the concept 'multiculturalism' to the UK saying its a cultural problem.

When did he say that?
 
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Lets just spam it to death! :D

hes right though...

if someone said ''guess what race this kid who stabbed someone in london was''

what would you say ?

as bad as it sounds it would take me 2 seconds to guess they where a black youth , and statistically i would nearly always be correct. which is the only reason i would have said it. not because im racist.

edit- he didnt start off right mind , he started off sounding like a racist , his argument is valid though imo.
 
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hes right though...

if someone said ''guess what race this kid who stabbed someone in london was''

what would you say ?

I'd tell them to take a hike because I wouldn't be interested in speaking with them because of the manner in which they approached the subject. Because I know the rationale behind those sorts of people. It's always the same shallow nonesense.

I'm not interested in it. How often do we have to have these ignorant posts here day after day, week after week, year after year just pointing at BLACKS and going LOOK. CRIME. RAPE. etc.

It's also probably the same person (hint hint)

If you think that's an acceptable way to approach a topic that's up to you, but I don't.

These RSS feed crap threads do not produce good discussion.



as bad as it sounds it would take me 2 seconds to guess they where a black youth , and statistically i would nearly always be correct. which is the only reason i would have said it. not because im racist.

Would you have made the post that the Patient Keeper made?
 
edit- he didnt start off right mind , he started off sounding like a racist , his argument is valid though imo.

He didn't have an argument. He just made a blanket racist statement. A la like every other thread he starts. He doesn't care about the why it's statistically more likely to be ethnic or coloured youth that commit these types of crime. All he cares about is that yet again another darky gone done ****ed someone up. He doesn't care for discussing it (though he pretends he does), for if he did, he'd go and discuss it in Speakers Corner. But he doesn't. Go look at his profile and go through his posts and the threads he's made. All in GD. Nowhere to be seen in SC, because if he went in there with his monotonous bull**** he'd be chewed up and spat out far more eloquently than anyone in GD could do.
 
Depends on how you are taking the dictionary definition, but in some areas it is as close to ghetto as you could get.



Hmmm.



Nobody is poor?

Ok.

http://www.poverty.org.uk/reports/mpse 2010.pdf

Can you explain that report to me if there are no people living under the poverty line in the UK?





Where are the rivers of blood?

Anyway, no one apart from you has been pussyfooting about anything tonight I don't think?

You haven't discussed much with value, weight or intellect




How can you know?

All I've seen is a lot of talk and not much action.

Even the burning of the quangos fizzled out rapidly.



When did he say that?
Jesus... living below the 'poverty line' isn't living in poverty. Do you know some of our athletes competing in the 2008 Olympics also lived below the 'poverty line'?

The closest you will get to poverty is probably with pensioners in this country.

Everyone has clean water, everyone gets free healthcare, everyone gets a free education, everyone can get clothing, everyone can get shelter, everyone can get money to feed themselves. Where is the poverty?

Like I said, these people arent mugging and shoplifting just so they can feed themselves and their kids like some sort of Robin Hood type hero, they do it so they can buy themselves a new mobile phone or pair of trainers. It isn't poverty.
 
Everyone has clean water, everyone gets free healthcare, everyone gets a free education, everyone can get clothing, everyone can get shelter, everyone can get money to feed themselves. Where is the poverty?

Like I said, these people arent mugging and shoplifting just so they can feed themselves and their kids like some sort of Robin Hood type hero, they do it so they can buy themselves a new mobile phone or pair of trainers. It isn't poverty.

Abaolute guff. Everyone has clean water. Provided you have a roof over your head. Everyone gets free healthcare, provided you have an address and can get a GP, otherwise it's A&E for only the most extreme of injuries and you'll need a GP note for prescriptions so an address, try getting that when homeless. Everyone can get clothing. Which is the second most stolen item from stores, after? Food. No, everyone can't get shelter. Everyone clearly can't get money to feed themselves. Like I said, middle class bubble. You haven't a clue.
 
He didn't have an argument. He just made a blanket racist statement. A la like every other thread he starts. He doesn't care about the why it's statistically more likely to be ethnic or coloured youth that commit these types of crime. All he cares about is that yet again another darky gone done ****ed someone up. He doesn't care for discussing it (though he pretends he does), for if he did, he'd go and discuss it in Speakers Corner. But he doesn't. Go look at his profile and go through his posts and the threads he's made. All in GD. Nowhere to be seen in SC, because if he went in there with his monotonous bull**** he'd be chewed up and spat out far more eloquently than anyone in GD could do.
Lets not forget I have a 1st class degree in Mechanical Engineering from Edinburgh and also an MPhil in Energy Technologies from Cambridge. I doubt I would be chewed up and owned in any sort of debate.
 
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