Soldato
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You're from bradford, am I right?
Sure you said where you lived before but I can't remember.
Petrol prices I have to sell my RAV4 so frustrated
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You're from bradford, am I right?
Sure you said where you lived before but I can't remember.
You're from bradford, am I right?
Sure you said where you lived before but I can't remember.
Yes I'm from Bradford, Why?
Soldato
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Just wondered pal...I know you have mentioned going to Leeds in the fuel thread etc but couldn't remember exactly where you live.
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surely if youre only doing 8,000 miles a year the added pennies isnt going to make it that much unaffordable for you? if it does then perhaps the RAV4 wasnt the best of choices in the first place?
not understanding at all the people who are justifying putting cheap as chips tyres on their car just because its a cheap car and especially mismatched wheel types and grips, I just cant fathom it. decent tyres are one of the most important safety features on your car.
getting these good brand name nearly new tyres for 1/3 of the cost and less...doesnt that seem too good to be true?! where do they come from?
in my experience if things seem too good to be true they usually are
not understanding at all the people who are justifying putting cheap as chips tyres on their car just because its a cheap car and especially mismatched wheel types and grips, I just cant fathom it. decent tyres are one of the most important safety features on your car.
getting these good brand name nearly new tyres for 1/3 of the cost and less...doesnt that seem too good to be true?! where do they come from?
in my experience if things seem too good to be true they usually are
It is quite alarming IMO especially considering the person in question works in the trade!
From what I understand -
Germany where they have more stringent tyre laws
Cars that are being scrapped/dismantled for whatever reason.
Occasionally Ex-Lease/company cars before they are retailed.
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So if it isn't safe for the Germans you think its good for you?
Covered that already, rarely a safe source of high end tyres.
lol, this is the best, what do they then, put it through auction with no tyres?
[TW]Fox;18297314 said:
When exactly did the law (especially one in another country) automatically constitute what was ultimately 'safe' or not?
[TW]Fox;18297314 said:
Not every situation which ends in a car being dismantled means that it has been involved in an horrific accident subjected the tyres to excessive stress/damage.
[TW]Fox;18297314 said:lol, this is the best, what do they then, put it through auction with no tyres?
Fit new ones?
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.Oh I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about being safe.
And you'll never know what sort your partworn tyres came from.
Fit new ones?
Right so you are saying a lease company takes a car back from lease with loads of tyre tread on it and before banging it through auction...
... replaces the tyres? What for, the lulz? Heck even things like the BMW Approved Used Car Scheme wont replace a tyre before retail if it has more than 3mm on it!
[TW]Fox;18297779 said:
No, we were talking about the differences in German tyre laws and why tyres from Germany are viable as Part worns in the UK.
[TW]Fox;18297779 said:
You might be right, but to be honest I think we'd both agree that this is a subject that you know little about, so excuse me if I'm going to take the word of someone who deals with Part worns over your 'bias'.
I'm not even sure why I'm sitting here and doing this. I'm not denying Part worns and I'm not trying to defend them, but people need to understand that sadly there is a market for them are they are the lesser of two evils (I.E people rocking around on blatantly defective and illegal tyres).
Just because I've chosen not to purchase part worn tyres doesn't mean I don't know what happens to lease cars at auction, thats a bit of an odd thing to say really
I could have bought part worn tyres every time I ever bought tyres, it wouldn't change my level of knowledge about the source! You probably buy products all the time without knowing the real source of them, so I dont really understand where you are going with that.
I will never categorise my level of knowledge on any subject on this forum - I wont even say 'I know lots about BMW's' - but I suspect I probably have a greater grasp of the concept we are discussing than your average buyer of a part worn tyre.
Personally the bias of somebody who deals in part worns is going to be many times more! He probably doesn't even know himself where the supplier gets them from, and BS is rife in the tyre industry, heck we get enough whinging on here about how dishonest and clueless a lot of tyre fitters are.
[TW]Fox;18298062 said:Just because I've chosen not to purchase part worn tyres doesn't mean I don't know what happens to lease cars at auction, thats a bit of an odd thing to say really
How it is odd? I've mentioned where somebody who deals with part worn rubber claims to source their tyres from and you've effectively popped up and said that he is lying. He might be lying/wrong but in this case they are the 'expert' and I'm typically going to side with the 'expert' unless they are spouting something that is blatantly incorrect.
It's nothing personal
.Approaching low tread (Sub 4mm?) so changed in order to aid resell? And I' sure I've heard of it being 'company policy' to replace tyres at a limit above the legal tread limit.
To be quite honest I do not know the ins and outs, neither do I think it really matters in the grand scheme of things - Given the mindset of the average part worn buyer they are not really going to care where the tyres on their car came from as long as they do the job.
To be quite honest I do not know the ins and outs, neither do I think it really matters in the grand scheme of things - Given the mindset of the average part worn buyer they are not really going to care where the tyres on their car came from as long as they do the job.
Far, far more tales of lease companies being utter skinflints and refusing to change tyres at 3mm and insisting the leaser keeps going until as low as 2mm. They dont spend a penny more than they need to! Even when the cars are tarted up cosmetically before being sold they are done at the leasers expense. I used to get loads of invoices for repair work when a car was off lease but never once did ANY of the major leasing companies invoice for tyre replacement when a car was coming off lease and why should they - they wouldnt replace them!
It's safe to say that lease companies are not replacing perfectly good tyres prior to disposing of cars from stock. It would make no sense at all to do this, a set of 4 tyres on a lease A4 or 3 Series will cost them even at trade about 500 quid these days, you think it would add 500 quid to the value at auction? Not a cat in hells chance!
This is the thing isnt it, nobody can ever come up with a credible, safe source for these tyres without resorting to stuff like this which just makes no sense at all.
Exactly. Nobody does.. yet you'd be happy to trust these tyres even though there are so many holes in the stories of where they are from and why they are even for sale you'd be forgiven for thinking its swiss cheese!
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Don't know if a Rav 4 fits into this but it looks like the Chelsea tractor mothers are getting hit now.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...othes-and-food-so-they-can-afford-petrol.html
1in 7 have abandoned the school run. Well one good thing I suppose has come out of it.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...othes-and-food-so-they-can-afford-petrol.html
1in 7 have abandoned the school run. Well one good thing I suppose has come out of it.
Most lease companies stick rigidly with the OEM tyre choice and won't let the customers vary from it.
And no, a set of tyres for, say, a 2007 320d M Sport do not 'only cost £500 from a BMW dealer'. They are more than that delivered from Camskill, let alone fitted.
Infact almost all lease cars will never go near a main dealer for tyres - they have corporate contracts with Kwik Fit, ATS et al. They'll pay considerably less than retail I would imagine but not sub £500 for a full set on todays typical S-Line rep-mobiles.
If you dont beleive me why not pop along to somewhere like Autoquake and have a look at the tyres fitted to the ex-fleet Audi and BMW's? Almost exclusively Bridgestone Potenza RFT's, Contisport Contacts, etc.
I'm not doubting your figures, I'm sure they are correct for the tyres in question.
I AM however doubting the need for paying the Bridgestones as opposed to putting on some Hankooks or Toyos.
Especially when you may end up paying 200% more for Bridgestones via main dealer compared to alternatives
I AM however doubting the need for paying the Bridgestones as opposed to putting on some Hankooks or Toyos.
Especially when you may end up paying 200% more for Bridgestones via main dealer compared to alternatives