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I'll ask this specifically in here as I'm sure most of you cook your own foods.

I've just made myself a home made sweet chilli chinese, with lots of veggies and some fried battered chicken. Now for stir frys I use some stir fry oil, not sure exactly whats in it but it tastes nice and works well.

However I am wondering what is a good oil to use for when I deep fry something once every few weeks. Also for general cooking I sometimes do have something fried (like every 2 weeks or so), and was wondering what would be a good oil for frying?
 
Stir fry's - ground nut oil for the flavour.
Deep frying - sunflower/vegetable (a lot of the time it's rapeseed), unless you like the taste of groundnut.

They have the same smoking points of 230c.
 
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Peanut oil is the one I currently use. I'm really lucky as I disovered an oriental supplies shop less than 5 minutes from my home, ha. Lived here 28 years and discovered it like a week ago, apparently its been there a life time aswell. Ohwell!!
 
o'rlly?
1 table spoon (13.6grams)of coconut oil contains
120 calories
13.5grams of fat (12.7 saturated fat)

may aswell use lard

Whats your point? The saturated fats found in coconut oil have been found to have a positive effect on health, nothing wrong with lard either.
 
oh? because i thought saturated fats had strong links with all types of cancer?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat

Recommendations to reduce or limit dietary intake of saturated fats are made by Health Canada,[28] the US Department of Health and Human Services,[29] the UK Food Standards Agency,[30] the Australian Department of Health and Aging,[31] the Singapore Government Health Promotion Board,[32] the Indian Government Citizens Health Portal,[33] the New Zealand Ministry of Health,[34] the Food and Drugs Board Ghana,[35] the Republic of Guyana Ministry of Health,[36] Hong Kong's Centre for Food Safety [37] and the World Health Organization and Food and Agriculture Organization.[38]

A 2004 statement released by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) determined that "Americans need to continue working to reduce saturated fat intake…"[39] Additionally, reviews by the American Heart Association led the Association to recommend reducing saturated fat intake to less than 7% of total calories according to its 2006 recommendations.[40][41] This concurs with similar conclusions made by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the US Department of Health and Human Services, both of which determined that reduction in saturated fat consumption would positively affect health and reduce the prevalence of heart disease.[42][43][44]

The World Health Organization (WHO) has concluded that saturated fats negatively affect cholesterol profiles, predisposing individuals to heart disease, and recommends avoiding saturated fats in order to reduce the risk of a cardiovascular disease
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positive effect on health you say? care to explain the postive benefits then?
 
oh? because i thought saturated fats had strong links with all types of cancer?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat



positive effect on health you say? care to explain the postive benefits then?

http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/features/cocgood.html

I appreciate that you could shout 'that's not a reliable source' but I'm sure that you can find a more reliable medical journal if you search. Here are some choice extracts:

Nearly 50% of the fatty acid in natural coconut oil is lauric acid, which converts to the fatty acid monolaurin in the body. Monolaurin has adverse effects on a variety of microorganisms including bacteria, yeast, fungi, and enveloped viruses. It [monolaurin] destroys the lipid membrane of such enveloped viruses as HIV, measles, Herpes simplex virus (HSV-1), influenza and cytomegalovirus (CMV). The usefulness lauric acid/monolaurin in treating AIDS is currently under investigation. Lauric acid is a main component of human breast milk and helps protect children from illness during infancy.
Capric acid, which comprises another 7% of coconut oil fat content, also stimulates anti-microbial activity.
In other words: not only does coconut oil not cause heart problems, it is good for you. To quote Dr. Mary Enig: "The research over four decades concerning coconut oil in the diet and heart disease is quite clear: coconut oil has been shown to be beneficial."(See endnote 4.)
Coconut oil is a "functional food," defined as a food that "provides a health benefit over and beyond the basic nutrients."(See endnote 5.) It is an immune-system enhancer.
For further reading: Mary G. Enig, Coconut: In Support of Good Health in the 21st Century (offsite). Also the Center for Research on Lauric Oils, Inc (offsite).
 
deep fried chips in coconut oil? sounds horrid :p

You would honestly be surprised! When I am having a bit of a treat I have some home fries in coco oil and they're bloody lovely. Basically gives them a slight undertone of coconut, but gives them the same mouthfeel chippy chips!
 
* The American Heart Association advise that individuals reduce their consumption of saturated fats, including those found in coconut oil, to less than 7% of their calorie intake.
* Similarly the WHO, and the FDA recommend the reduced consumption of saturated fat, including that from coconut oil, suggesting this will positively affect health, and reduce the prevalence of heart attacks.
* In the UK the FSA also recommend cutting back on saturated fats including that found in coconut oil, coconut cream, and palm oil.
dont tell me some thai food and travel website is more reliable

there is no "proof" the saturateds fats in coconuts are any better than the saturated fats found elsewhere
 
dont tell me some thai food and travel website is more reliable

there is no "proof" the saturateds fats in coconuts are any better than the saturated fats found elsewhere

I think you're a little confused as to what I'm saying. I'll address the points individually here, and I'll make sure that I use 'proof' too;

Diet

Most people who have a 'healthy' diet will also find that they're lacking in saturated fat. That is, those who take an interest in their health will probably steer clear of sat-fat from the perception that it is, in fact, bad for you. The evidence for sat-fat being bad for you is now outdated - sort of like the 'evidence' for eggs and cholesterol, and many of the other 'daily mail' headlines. In addition, trans fats are probably the worst for you, given 'current' findings in science.

Here is some copy-pasta to explain the myth about sat-fat;

First of all, did you realize that although doctors, nutritionists, fitness professionals, and the media all have told you that it's a FACT that saturated fats are bad for you, this "FACT" has actually never been proven!

It's actually not a "fact" at all. It was a hypothesis! This goes all the way back to a flawed research study from the 1950's where a guy named Ancel Keys published a paper that laid the blame on dietary fat intake for the increasing heart disease phenomenon.

However, there were major flaws to his study. For one, in his conclusions he only used data from a small portion of the countries where data was available on fat consumption vs heart disease death rate. When researches have gone back in and looked at the data from all of the countries, there actually was no link between fat consumption and heart disease deaths. So his conclusions were actually false.

Second, his blaming of fat intake for heart disease was only one factor that was considered. There was no consideration of other factors such as smoking rates, stress factors, sugar intake, exercise frequency, or other lifestyle factors.

Basically, his conclusions which blamed heart disease deaths on fat intake were really just a shot in the dark about what a possible cause may have been, even though all of those other factors I just mentioned, plus many others, may be the bigger cause.

Unfortunately, Keys study has been cited for over 5 decades now as "fact" that saturated fat is bad for you. As you can see, there certainly is nothing factual about it.

Since that time, numerous other studies have been conducted trying to link saturated fat intake to heart disease. The majority of these studies have failed to correlate ANY risk at all from saturated fat. A couple of them made feeble attempts at linking saturated fat to heart disease, however, it was later shown that in those studies, the data was flawed as well.

Another issue with flawed studies is that many studies have lumped artificial trans fat intake together with saturated fat intake, and mistakenly laid the blame on saturated fat despite the overwhelming evidence that artificial trans fat is the REAL health risk. This is a HUGE mistake as there is a vast difference in how your body processes nasty artificially created trans fats vs the perfectly natural saturated fats that have been part of the human diet since the beginning of man.




However, if you're still concerned, the OP said that this was more than a treat - a far cry from the over 7% (an arbitrary number) that the WHO state. Should I stick to the 50g of protein a day that they recommend too?

Take a read of this: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/fat_cholesterol_truth.htm

My favourite bit is where the 'benefits' of a low fat diet are expelled.

'Let's take the latest one for example (7th May 2008). At a cost of $415 million, The Women's Health Initiative monitored 49,000 subjects over an average period of 8 years - a HUGE study. They were advised to eat more vegetables, fruits and grains and less fat (20% of daily calories - only 44 grams of total fat per day on a 2000 calorie-per-day diet), especially saturated fat.

The results finally came in, the media waited with bated breath - guess what effect this low fat diet had on heart disease. None! Zero! Zilch! '



Saturated fat in coconut oil

So far we have seen that, in fact, saturated fats are not the evil things that they're promoted as being. It is also worth noting that the chemical make-up of coconut oil is;

Lauric saturated C12

47.5%
Myristic saturated C14

18.1%
Palmitic saturated C16

8.8%

(and of course some others)

Now, lauric fatty acid. A quick google will help you see the benefits which this has.

So, proof:

Not all research finds the link between saturated fat and CVD clear. In 2010, a meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies found no statistically significant relationship between cardiovascular disease and dietary saturated fat. In 2009, a systematic review of prospective cohort studies or randomized trials concluded that there was "insufficient evidence of association" between intake of saturated fatty acids and coronary heart disease, and pointed to strong evidence for protective factors such as vegetables and a Mediterranean diet and harmful factors such as trans fats and foods with a high glycemic index.

Peer reviewed studies

Mente A, de Koning L, Shannon HS, Anand SS (April 2009). "A systematic review of the evidence supporting a causal link between dietary factors and coronary heart disease". Arch. Intern. Med. 169 (7): 659–69.

Siri-Tarino PW, Sun Q, Hu FB, Krauss RM (March 2010). "Meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies evaluating the association of saturated fat with cardiovascular disease". The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 91 (3): 535–46. doi:10.3945/ajcn.2009.27725. PMID 20071648


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Is that enough 'proof'? Yes I am mad, because I am sick and tired of hearing the BS about what is 'bad for you' without any scientific backing. You can quote the WHO and FDA till you're blue in the face - and I'll find you 10 studies, done with correct scientific methodologies which prove otherwise.

:)
 
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Coconut oil. No question. Healthy and tastes great


Bang on. :) Lots of good fats.

However it is a little dear, so any nut oil is also perfectly acceptable.



Remember chaps saturated fats help boost testosterone - so it's a balance. Don't believe the hype about fats etc...
 
You also have to remember that many of the studies that supposedly show a link between sat fat and health problems failed to separate sat fats and trans fats in their study, trans fat being a real health risk.
Also many of the companies behind the studies telling us to eat less fat and more carbs that medical thinking is still largely based on were the exact companies that would benefit from people buying and eating plenty of the cheap carbs they were producing and selling.
 
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Is that enough 'proof'? Yes I am mad, because I am sick and tired of hearing the BS about what is 'bad for you' without any scientific backing. You can quote the WHO and FDA till you're blue in the face - and I'll find you 10 studies, done with correct scientific methodologies which prove otherwise.

:)

You're bang on the money there mate,superb post! It's nice to know someone else out there is on a similar wavelength to me,you and Freefaller have restored my faith in humanity! Sat fats for the win!;)
 
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