You have just quoted a good 90% of this forum
Seriously !Have you ever noticed the amount of it on here? It's as bad as World of Warcraft.
But as previously stated, it's the English accent to blame, that's just how you hear it.
must have, should have, could have, would have - aaaaargh
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You have just quoted a good 90% of this forum
Seriously !Have you ever noticed the amount of it on here? It's as bad as World of Warcraft.
But as previously stated, it's the English accent to blame, that's just how you hear it.
Vernacular and colloquialism are all well and good with spoken english. But the beauty of english (to me at least) is its expressiveness and ability to be clear, concise and descriptive, and imaginative.
If you carry over 'slang' into the written word you loose all sense of context and meaning. It is not evolution, but degeneration. Nothing is added as a benefit to the whole of the language in general terms, but much is lost or taken away through ignorance or plain laziness.
Evolution of language, such as the online verbiage as we see here every day, would be such things as 'lol' or 'omg' 'wtf' - less a way of talking and more a means of relaying more complex information and common phrasing without the need to write it out long hand... it's called an acronym. But these are subjective to common (regular) users of the internet and not incorporated into the language at large. Informal speech and writing.
Dissolution of language to the extent that meaning, and therefore understanding, is lost is not a good thing - replacing descriptive words with those simpler and less versatile, because of slack teaching, is part of the reason why we now have a good proportion of our youth who have no grasp of communication above the most basic, vulgar, grunting.
I have a reasonable grasp of spoken and written english, and while I find it slightly annoying when grammar and comprehension are ignored on forums etc (more for the fact that I have to then guess at the meaning, than any real hatred), what is most unfortunate is having to say something again in a simpler, more pedestrian way, when the person I am speaking to does not understand due to their lack of education. Depending on the individual I either get a blank look, or they seem to think I am taking the ****; the suspicion being that "usin' big letters innit" is deliberate to obfuscate their understanding. It is not. It's just the way I was taught at school and by my parents.
Sadly, the lowest common denominator appears to be the standard of teaching these days.
I am guilty of assuming that a lack of correct language (written or spoken), sometimes implies a lack of intelligence or education, often both, when applied to some younger people.How you speak and write can be deemed illustrative of how you think.
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Pretty much says it all, really - thanks for the contribution, kgi
On a more serious note, thanks for the contribution, jumpy. Interesting read, exemplarised by close correllation with my own views
. Slight whiff of elitism, but I'm the last person entitled to criticise over that, and obviously written communication is one of the most restrictive forms in terms of relaying information so I could easily be mistaken.Pretty much says it all, really - thanks for the contribution, kgi
And that's why people should try to avoid sarcasm on a written form, it rarely trascribes as intended (or in other words, I botched it)! Lesson learnt!
I blame the internet and mobile phones.
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But I suppose you don't mind saying "a couple" when you should have said "a few"
I was posting on a phone while walking... I wasn't about to start scrolling up and down and counting.
Besides, we've had a thread in which we concluded that some people use "a couple" colloquially in the same way people use "a few".
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Yep, it's becoming exceptionally prevalent these days. It seems a lot of people seem to think it's correct.
Since when has the definition of "of" become that of "have"?
Come to think of it "of" nor "have" have (much of) a definition but whatever they could be defined as they are not synonyms!
OP, this must have been annoying you for ages? You could have said something sooner and maybe people would have stopped posting with grammatical errors in their posts. Many people don't know they're doing it and should have listened up more at school. I know i certainly could have!
VONHELMET IS HUMAN!
That is taking it a bit far frankly!
Don't be disgusting, I use an iPhone!
meh, regional accents and the like can have an effect on how a word is spoken e.g. "draw-ring" instead of "drawing (note the first part of this example is typed phonetically to highlight a point)
There isn't much that can be done regarding this in SOME cases in my opinion but, as written text has no accent, using incorrect words i.e. "of" instead of "have" is just lazy/stupid.
I'm not sure if it has been put in place across the entire country but whilst my niece was still in primary school (about 3/4 years ago) it was changed so that teachers could only mark one/two spelling/grammar mistakes in a child's homework otherwise it might "upset the child"
I believe they also said they could no longer put an X next to the mistake for the same reason.
I was under the impression that teachers were there to teach the child but if they can't correct them, how can the child ever learn?
When I was in primary school we would have spelling tests every couple of weeks or so but if memory serves correctly my niece and nephew never had them.
My niece is 13 and asked me a few weeks back how to spell shopping. There have been several other occasions where she has asked me to spell a simple word for her.