Would you baptise your child - school

Pretty much the samething.... is it not?

You sacrifice your belief or non-belief in this case (which may not hold that much importance to you) for the good of your Child, or you sell out the well-being of your Child for a belief.

What choice do you make?
 
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The fact that some churches are 'rammed' full is no indication of the numbers still following the Christian religion whatsoever, if a number of local churches are no longer available then the remaining faithful will seek to go further afield and hence the congregation in a given church may be from far and wide and therefore quite busy.
The numbers of Muslims actively practicing their religion is probably 90% or more whereas the percentage of people who will automatically put themselves down as Christian in the forthcoming census without even the slightest interest in religion whatsoever will probably be similar but extremely misleading statistically.
It would be interesting if we had a poll on this forum to see how many of you Christians follow your religion actively rather than just call yourself a Christian because you were brought up that way.
The poll would be something along the lines of:

Atheist
agnostic
Don't know or not sure
Christian but not interested
Christian but regular churchgoer.
Life revolves around my religion



Erm....going to church is not a requirement of being a Christian, my Gran read the bible everyday and was deeply religious, yet never went to Church.

So Christian...but not interested is a little unfair.
 
Erm....going to church is not a requirement of being a Christian, my Gran read the bible everyday and was deeply religious, yet never went to Church.

So Christian...but not interested is a little unfair.

That's where Christianity differs from practically any other religion on the planet in that that the majority don't bother with anything to do with their supposed religion other than marriage, Christenings and funerals.

I can't name any other religion that's so disinterested as Christianity in this country, Muslims, Hindu's, Jews, Sikhs, Budhist's all follow their religion with far more dedication , it's a fact that can't be denied
 
That's where Christianity differs from practically any other religion on the planet in that that the majority don't bother with anything to do with their supposed religion other than marriage, Christenings and funerals.

I can't name any other religion that's so disinterested as Christianity in this country, Muslims, Hindu's, Jews, Sikhs, Budhist's all follow their religion with far more dedication , it's a fact that can't be denied

Is it?

Buddhists in particular rarely attend organised gatherings. Anyone can be devoutly Christian in a personal way, regardless of your own biased viewpoint on what a Christian 'should be'

You are equating being a 'Christian' with being a 'Catholic' or an 'Anglican' and so on. That is simply not always the case.
 
Parents do have responsibility for educating their children too. I fully indend to be very active in my daughters education regardless of the school she goes to, that can make all the difference.

It's a bit short sighted to say that standing up for your beliefs means sacrificing your child's education, that's saying you are passing the entirety of your child's future off to a school, which is a bit of an issue in today's society I believe. Parents are too quick to hand off their kids and take no active part.
 
Parents do have responsibility for educating their children too. I fully indend to be very active in my daughters education regardless of the school she goes to, that can make all the difference.

It's a bit short sighted to say that standing up for your beliefs means sacrificing your child's education, that's saying you are passing the entirety of your child's future off to a school, which is a bit of an issue in today's society I believe. Parents are too quick to hand off their kids and take no active part.

My Sons school have a Catholic ethos, it teaches him predominantly a Catholic outlook. I teach him that there are other religions, other beliefs and in fact have given a lesson in his school on comparative religion, including other beliefs such as Atheism and Agnosticism.

In fact, he doesn't believe anyway (he is 11, so what he believes is subject to constant change), but if he did, so what, shpuld he believe or not believe just because I do or do not.

So I would say that you are not really sacrificing or selling out anything by sending your child to a faith school when you have no faith.
 
No

Your principles define you - if you bend them to the will of others you lose your identity in the world and become a slave to the system.

Thats hilarious. Thanks for cheering me up on a Friday lunchtime.

Anyway OP, talk it over with your wife and see.
Personally I think some sort of religion can provide a decent moral basis for life, but it hardly holds true in the UK now.
Religious rates are very low, apathy takes over, STI and teenage pregnancy rates are incredibly high.

I doubt their schooling will affect their social choices but certainly your own input into the childs life will.
 
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So I would say that you are not really sacrificing or selling out anything by sending your child to a faith school when you have no faith.

I actually agree with your post completely. It's the baptising part that I object to. It would unacceptably compromise my beliefs to stand in a church and swear to things I don't believe in and to lie to a respected member of the christian community.
 
I actually agree with your post completely. It's the baptising part that I object to. It would unacceptably compromise my beliefs to stand in a church and swear to things I don't believe in and to lie to a respected member of the christian community.

That depends on what you hold more important I suppose.

We didn't have to do any such thing, The Catholic School my son attends doesn't have such policies. He is not baptised btw.
 
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That's where Christianity differs from practically any other religion on the planet in that that the majority don't bother with anything to do with their supposed religion other than marriage, Christenings and funerals.

I can't name any other religion that's so disinterested as Christianity in this country, Muslims, Hindu's, Jews, Sikhs, Budhist's all follow their religion with far more dedication , it's a fact that can't be denied

Oh look who has instantly raised their head to bash on Christianity. You were quick, ill give you that. Perchance, did you stumble upon this thread resurrection or are do you sit in the shadows waiting for your chance to strike.

For all your claims and bluster, you have still failed to raise one single viable source that supports anything you have to say.
 
No doubting you want what is best for the young one but i think it's more important what he believes in before you consider a baptism. It's the one thing i allways dissagreed with my mum for having me baptised at an age where i did not know what i believed in.
If your comfortable with a white lie then yes go ahead with it if it means a better education after you have both talked it through.:)
 
Just dip the kid's head in a bowl of water and call it a day already. Education is far more important than some ridiculous fancy schmancy superstitious ritual.

As for people who genuinely had a problem with baptism/being baptised, get a grip :rolleyes: it does not affect you at all. I'm an atheist and I was baptised and it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. If you feel that strongly that you're offended by the fact you were baptised against your wishes or whatever, then you need to sort your priorities out to be honest.

It is nothing.
 
Just do it.

The kid will need the best education he\she can get, and if that means putting some water on his\her head then that's a small price to pay.
 
The fact that you are worrying about this decision shows that you are a very upright person. Personally, I think it is actually quite noble to do something that is against your beliefs for the betterment of your child.
 
Bit of a wierd one this.

I have no religious beliefs at all, my wife is a non practising Catholic.

My parents are not religious at all, and they dont believe that a parent should choose a childs religion, it should be left to the child to decide when they are old enough.

I kind of feel the same way, and i am not sure that i could be so hipocritical as to get my child baptised/christened whatever just so they could get into a better school.

Personally i wouldnt have my child christened to get them into a school, simply because i dont believe in it.

Strange as it may seem i dont believe that religion has a place in modern life anymore nevermind as an acceptance test to get into a school.
 
Just dip the kid's head in a bowl of water and call it a day already. Education is far more important than some ridiculous fancy schmancy superstitious ritual.

As for people who genuinely had a problem with baptism/being baptised, get a grip :rolleyes: it does not affect you at all. I'm an atheist and I was baptised and it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. If you feel that strongly that you're offended by the fact you were baptised against your wishes or whatever, then you need to sort your priorities out to be honest.

It is nothing.
I couldn't agree more
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I am also an atheist who was baptised.
 
Just do it.

The kid will need the best education he\she can get, and if that means putting some water on his\her head then that's a small price to pay.

I've never got this way of thinking. You can learn outside of school you know? It's not a case of you are doomed if you go to a certain school.

I think if I were home schooled I would be a hell of a lot academically smarter.
 
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