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Found a link to this story on BoingBoing, pretty interesting:
http://torrentfreak.com/internet-pi...utm_campaign=Feed:+Torrentfreak+(Torrentfreak)
I wonder if the DVD sales they measured were just in Japan or internationally. Cause if it's just in Japan it'd be a lot more conclusive, since for folks like us there's more of an incentive to buy a DVD, which'll have well-translated subs and a professional dub, rather than download a fansub.
 
I read about this earlier via another site (which is NSFW so I won't link to it here).

Japan’s prestigious Research Institute of Economy, Trade and Industry (RIETI), a government-affiliated economics think-tank, has published detailed research suggesting anime piracy can boost disc sales.

The official English language abstract of the (lengthy and highly technical) research – the paper itself is only published in Japanese:

Do Illegal Copies of Movies Reduce the Revenue of Legal Products? The case of TV animation in Japan

Whether or not illegal copies circulating on the internet reduce the sales of legal products has been a hot issue in the entertainment industries.
Though much empirical research has been conducted on the music industry, research on the movie industry has been very limited.

This paper examines the effects of the movie sharing site Youtube and file sharing program Winny on DVD sales and rentals of Japanese TV animation programs.

Estimated equations of 105 anime episodes show that (1) Youtube viewing does not negatively affect DVD rentals, and it appears to help raise DVD sales; and (2) although Winny file sharing negatively affects DVD rentals, it does not affect DVD sales.

Youtube’s effect of boosting DVD sales can be seen after the TV’s broadcasting of the series has concluded, which suggests that not just a few people learned about the program via a Youtube viewing. In other words YouTube can be interpreted as a promotion tool for DVD sales.
The research itself provides detailed statistical analysis of each title featured (mostly popular late-night anime), even going so far as to incorporate such factors as the popularity of the seiyuu involved in the titles, what medium the anime was adapted from and which demographic it targets.

Each factor’s estimated impact on the likely effect of online distribution on sales is then extrapolated using regression modelling.
Sankaku Complex provides a translation of the study’s key conclusions:
We compared the DVD sales, DVD rental sales, YouTube viewing numbers and Winny download numbers of various anime titles.
Our results suggested the following:

1. YouTube viewing did not decrease DVD sales, but actually increased them. For each 1% increase in YouTube viewership a 0.25% increase in DVD sales was observed.

2. The effect of YouTube on sales was particularly pronounced in the case of shows which had finished airing on TV. We can think of this as people who never saw the broadcasts becoming fans by way of YouTube and then going on to buy the DVDs.

3. There is no clear effect on DVD rentals from YouTube. At the very least we can say it seems YouTube has no adverse effect on DVD rentals.

4. Winny file-sharing has no effect on DVD sales, but does appear to decrease DVD rentals. People who download anime via Winny appear to be using it not to replace their purchases, but to replace their rentals.

As YouTube is having no adverse affect on anime sales, but is in fact increasing them, further distribution on YouTube is likely desirable.
Copyright holders who dislike YouTube and persistently request their works to be deleted from YouTube are likely to be harming their own business.
As a result of these findings, we can probably conclude that banning downloads of such material is a mistaken policy.

The usual proviso that correlation does not equate to causation naturally bears mentioning when presented with any study based chiefly on statistical observations. It should also be remembered these results solely concern the Japanese market and have nothing to say about fansubbing or otherwise.

Of course, these results should not be misconstrued as an endorsement of piracy – most anime production is funded primarily through DVD sales, so it is still essential fans at some point buy DVDs themselves, and the fact that TV, YouTube and P2P viewing is usually at much lower quality (whether in terms of image quality or dehumidification) than a disc always provides a strong natural incentive to buy.

Rather, it would seem online distribution has a crucial role to play in promoting anime to as wide an audience as possible and allowing this audience a preview of the full product available to paying customers – a fairly basic realisation to all but the most stubborn and unreasonable of copyright holders.

The research also tends to contradict government policy, which has recently seen unauthorised downloads criminalised, and soon threatens to ban ripping of DVDs and CDs altogether, a move which might have rather serious effects on the DVD rental business as well as on consumer freedom, and which, if this research is to be believed, would only further harm the anime industry.
It will be just on their internal market though, (i.e. not including international sales). Also bear in mind that the Japanese love their limited editions so the chances of them buying nice releases, even if they have watched things through other means, is probably higher than in the West.
 
looks like it's Japan only.
From a personal perspective, I'll buy a dvd if I want the show even if I have seen a fansub. If they released the shows subbed in the UK quicker I'd buy quicker - it can't be hard to add english subs to Japanese releases and add in a double sided cover (one Japanese, one English), the region codes are the same etc.
 
looks like it's Japan only.
From a personal perspective, I'll buy a dvd if I want the show even if I have seen a fansub. If they released the shows subbed in the UK quicker I'd buy quicker - it can't be hard to add english subs to Japanese releases and add in a double sided cover (one Japanese, one English), the region codes are the same etc.

I always buy DVD/BD of something I have by other means if I enjoyed it, (and will just buy it if it is licensed and available already).

If it is not licensed then I do seriously consider picking up the Japanese release anyway if I really like it, (e.g. Tamayura and Time of Eve the other day and ToHeart2), or if it licensed but the Japanese release has English subs and is significantly better then it gets serious consideration ...
 
Hey guys, quick question, has anyone had any dealings with purchasing anime from Playtech asia? found the site yesterday and it seems pretty good but wanted to be sure :)
 
Hey guys, quick question, has anyone had any dealings with purchasing anime from Playtech asia? found the site yesterday and it seems pretty good but wanted to be sure :)

Well even looking at the front page indicates that it's full of dodgy bootlegs ... looks like everything of the 16 items on the front page is definitely dodgy ... either unlicensed for subbed R1 release, licensed but not released by the licensee yet or the version they have there doesn't match the genuine release ... combine that with extremely low disk counts and region 0 ...

I'd avoid personally ...
 
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Well even looking at the front page indicates that it's full of dodgy bootlegs ... looks like everything of the 16 items on the front page is definitely dodgy ... either unlicensed for subbed R1 release, licensed but not released by the licensee yet or the version they have there doesn't match the genuine release ... combine that with extremely low disk counts and region 0 ...

I'd avoid personally ...

To true since extremely high episode counts per disc and the lack of region coding are two of the red flags for finding bootlegs since the maximum number of episodes per dual layered disc on official releases is 7 and no company would do any region free DVD releases now (although a few companies did do region 0 releases).
 
It can get a bit higher with BD releases though, (e.g. Sentai's Tears to Tiara release which crams 26 episodes on to two BDs) ... but as the site is selling DVD releases it's a nope ... and Seraph, if you are looking for cheap releases then don't be tempted by the "official Malaysian releases" of "perfect collections" on popular auction sites ... they're going to be about as good as the releases on that site.
 
fair enough, thanks for the head's up guys, was just so tempting seeing animes on their that i couldn't seem to find anywhere else :(
 
Rosario + Vampire & the second series too, Kiddygrade ( the episodes, not the 3 movies ) and queens blade, UP1, has the latest queens blade stuff, but not the first two seasons so :S
 
R+V and R+V capu2 won't be out until August 2011 and kiddy grade is going to be pretty much a lost cause since you'll never be able to get it complete (if you want it all with new discs).
 
As Demoix says Rosario+Vampire is not due out now until the end of August (the release date has slipped several times to it's current 30/8). Kiddygrade, a quick look appears to show that all the singles could be obtainable from Amazon US at <$5 disk (at least they appear to list vols 1-8 when I searched) ... or the Viridian collection from Funimation is listed, used, on Amazon UK.

I am not sure what you mean about Queens Blade? UP1 have all three volumes of the Media Blasters singles release of season 1 listed + the DVD and BD collections for it (I don't think the DVD collection is actually released yet). The only thing they don't have is a listing of volume 1 of the singles release of series 2 (which has been solicited but won't be released for several months (May) but is listed on TRSI).
 
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Another option for Kiddy Grade is the Madman R4 DVD release ... it's listed on one of the sites Werewolf listed a page or so ago here (and on the last site he listed) but again it would seem it's going OOP there too which is a pity as it's a very good sci-fi series.

Ok, so things I have been watching over the last few days ...

- Finished watching The Girl Who Leapt Through Space ... I really like this series. It has a good sci-fi base and a nice coherent plot. It's a good mixture of action with enough humour, but the right sort of humour that it doesn't turn silly. It has a nice collection of characters and whilst there is quite a large cast they all seem to fit together well. Visually it looks very good too. Would definitely recommend.

- Watched The World God Only Knows ... ok this was a bit hit and miss. Not being a gamer, at all, some aspects of it were a bit meh but it was fairly reasonable, if light, for the most part. I wasn't that keen on the last episode, seemed a bit of a waste of time, but some of the earlier arcs were ok. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the future.

- From the depths of my backlog Hyakko. Found the series quite amusing and a good light watch. Follows an odd bunch of girls in high school ... and when I say odd I mean odd. But a reasonable mixture and the series was overall quite good ... it's hard to describe it's genre as while there was quite a bit of humour there was also drama at times too.

- Also from the depths of my backlog came the first two episodes of Garden of Sinners. Not really my cup of tea as it's in the violent/suspense/thriller sort of genre but it was interesting and visually looked very nice.

Also read volume 7 of the Kimi no Todoke manga (which takes you past the end of the first anime season) and volume 2 of The Story of Saiunkoku.

Started watching Denno Coil this evening ...
 
Let us know what you think of Dennou Coil. I've seen it mentioned several times as a good anime that never really got much look in internationally so it's peaked my interest but givem the backlog Im currently running on, not enough to actually find it :D

Watched a couple of shows recently:
Eden of the East - genuinely liked this. The ending falls a bit short because it branches out into some films, so it's a bit of a 'tied up current crisis but that's it' sort of ending.

I'll definately try and get hold of the films though;the two main characters are both quite likeable and easy to watch (something that the makers of TWGOK could have learnt; the main guy in that was horrendously unlikeable, I'm a gamer and I still couldn't like him), and the running subplot about the two of them was nicely carried without being rediculously thrust in your face at all the points, as you followed what was going on with Takizawa and the Selecao. There were also some little flashes of humour here and there in the series, so it wasn't as dry/serious a show as the premise and general plotline could have made it.

That it felt very much inspired by recent spy and mystery movies like the Bourne series (which it actually referenced in the first episode); and generally felt different to most of the other shows I've seen recently made a nice change, and luckily the show had a reasonable amount of goodness going for it to prevent it just being a shallow smile.

Retaining the original intro for the first episode (Oasis) was also a nice change, and set it apart; something about the track felt very inline with the show, and this whole, well, we're doing something a little away from the anime norm attitude carried on throughout the run.


Soredemo Machi Wa Mawatteiru - Fancied something a little random, light and comedic, so threw this on. Unfortunately the series as a whole didn't really click with me. I personally wasn't much a fan of the humour (similarly to how I wasn't amazingly fond of Arakawa Under The Bridge).

The series wasn't completely unlikeable, but as the series was generally built around humour, rather than overplot, I never really got that into the show. Initially I watched it to see what it was like, then I ended up watching it as I recognised the main voice actress from Seitokai Yakuindomo (which I actually really enjoyed) and to see if it got better, before being put off almost completely but the absolute randomness of the last few episodes, and basically finishing just to feel like I'd finished it.

Not a terrible series, but just not for me, so I don't think I'll be rewatching this one.



Just started Maria-holic, as it seemed like a comedy with a little more plotting and drama behind it, rather being built around a oneshot/4-koma formula, not to mention the slightly cynical sense of humour the series is based on appeals to the darker side of my own (the whole underlying premise behind the series is almost a ****take in it's own right).
Not really given me any belly laughs as yet, but I'm enjoying it more than Soredemo, so I'll see how it goes, either way it should help space things out a bit, as I'm feeling like watching something a little more serious in the near future, or at least one of the bigger series I've been stacking up to watch for a while.
 
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I liked Eden of the East when I first saw it, but really need to see the films when they are released.

Forgot to mention, I also watched King of Thorn at the weekend as well. Thought it was ok, (again not really my thing) but seemed quite interesting in an actiony sort of way.
 
I watched king of thorns a few weeks ago too.Reminded me a bit like origin/agito sort of
Any news on the live action Maria Sama mate? ;)
And why do we still have the Xmas smilies? :D
EDIT: They just disappeared :eek:
 
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