London Teen stabbed 24 times...

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Where did these statistics come from?

can you provide a URL?

I could only find London 2009-2010. Glad I don't live there.

"The data provide a breakdown of the ethnicity of the 18,091 men and boys who police took action against for a range of violent and sexual offences in London in 2009-10"

"street crimes 54 per cent were black; for robbery, 59 per cent; and for gun crimes, 67 per cent. Street crimes include muggings, assault with intent to rob and snatching property."

Just over 12 per cent of London’s 7.5 million population is black while 69 per cent is white, according to the Office for National Statistics.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html
 
Either way, I've listened to loads of Jay Z and have yet to attempt to deal crack.

Is this a joke? He's as gangster as a bloody tampon. I can assure you from first hand observance, these "Gangsters/Wannabe Gangsters" do not listen to Jay Z.

2Pac or Giggs yes, but Jay Z? no absolutely not.
 
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Do you stand by the fact that the presumption on a near 50/50 split in chance towards deriding the white man is acceptable?

Nonesense.

I haven't made such a statement, I'm trying to pull him up on his towards blacks with these 'damning' statistics.

I've said nothing myself on my opinion on the statistics.

I wouldn't make any such presumptions on my behalf again. You'll come off badly.
 
After reading some of the posts in this thread, I feel extremely lucky that I don't share their views.

They must have a horrible existence that they feel threatened by such things as another humans race or culture.

My ancestors lived in Africa around 200,000 years ago and now live everywhere on the Earth. They didn't just grow out of the ground in their own little countries. Native Americans lol.:)

And here's another DD, just because I know you love them so, so much.....:)
 
Great idea. This sort of punishment has been proven time and time again to be absolutely successful in stopping crime and engendering respect.

Nothing will ever stop crime as a lot of it is driven by mental illness, but harsh punishments of a physical nature do work in greatly reducing crime. Its also the very thing the gangs do and understand, its how they impose their law. They know it works.
 
Please think about this and reply as relevantly and logically as you can. Let's be honest, there's nothing about variation in melanin that makes people want to commit crimes. Why then, do we have people arguing that black people are linked to crimes? (kwerk: remember that 50% of all knife crimes are commited by somebody who isn't black)

There is NO WAY. NO WAY AT ALL, that people can ultimately link being black to an increased chance of stabbing someone.

Let us assume a hypothetical situation: that in fact DD, Kwerk and co are right, and that blacks are a lot more violent, more likely to commit crimes etc. Is it because they're black? Really? How about this argument: black people tend to be poorer. Poorer people are more likely to commit crime, therefore, for any given black person, they are more likely to commit a crime than a non black. (remember, it's a hypothetical situation) Therefore, there would be a correlation between crime and skin colour, and a causal relationship between crime and wealth.

For the 50% of knife crimes that weren't caused by black: do you have data for the areas these were caused in, or the wealth of the people that caused them?

Here's another hypothetical situation:

There's a lot more stabbings in London that we don't know about. In fact, around 6% of stabbings are caused by blacks. But, blacks are much easier to catch than people of other races, therefore this pushes the statistic up to 50%. I know this sounds ridiculous, but I'm just trying to get you guys to question the real truth behind the statistics.

I actually ****ing hate these OcUK threads. It seems that the more sensible members appear not to post in them, and they just become a breeding ground for people who believe that immigrants are the cause of all problems.
 
Truth is brothers get stabby and white boys get kicky.

Gang culture tells you to kill your enemy. I used to know plenty of wiggas none would get stabby tho....

i think brothers just like sharp things more.
 
Truth is brothers get stabby and white boys get kicky.

Gang culture tells you to kill your enemy. I used to know plenty of wiggas none would get stabby tho....

i think brothers just like sharp things more.

Rubbish.

Plenty whites around here love stabbing anyone.

Generalisations for the win!
 
But is is disproportionate when it comes to black youths in London.

It is.

Do you care to offer a suggestion why?

A solution?

Are you going to try and defend his illogical presumptions that everytime its knife crime you can just automatically presume it is a black person?

Given the statistics, I couldn't.
 
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