Interesting documentary about cannabis

Do you actually know this to be true, or are you just going from what you've read/seen in the media? I'm not asking this to be rude, only it reminded me of an article from the Guardian by Ben Goldacre from a few years ago: http://www.badscience.net/2007/03/reefer-badness/ where the stats didn't support the increases in strength being claimed.

I only ever speak from Actual experience. ;)
 
I never said I had a crap job? Also, the money isn't an issue, if it was, I wouldn't do it.


If your life is great and your job and GF are to then WHY?. This is what I don't understand at all.
You could save all that money for a house or a nest egg for your kids.

Maybe I am just getting old :o
 
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let people grow 2/5 plants for personal use and work out some type of tax system.keep it illegal to sell unless you have a type of weed license same type of thing as alcohol licence.
then comedown hard on dealer's for selling it.
 
If your life is great and your job and GF are to then WHY?. This is what I don't understand at all.
You could save all that money for a house or a nest egg for your kids.

Maybe I am just gettting old :o

You could ask why people garnish there dinners, It adds to the dish just as having a Buzz adds to life.
It's one thing doing something straight & another doing it out your head.
 
I was joking of course about the reefer addicts. Anti-drugs enforcement is basically a way for the government to keep a bunch of people employed with busy-work who would otherwise be on the dole.
 
If your life is great and your job and GF are to then WHY?. This is what I don't understand at all.
You could save all that money for a house or a nest egg for your kids.

Maybe I am just gettting old :o

Because we want to :/

People do a lot of silly things, some that are quite a lot more dangerous.
 
If your life is great and your job and GF are to then WHY?. This is what I don't understand at all.
You could save all that money for a house or a nest egg for your kids.

Maybe I am just gettting old :o

People spend craploads of money and risk their safety more by skydiving and basejumping, are you also against them?
 
Never taken drugs myself, just fortunate not to be interested I suppose. I have no problem with people using cannabis (or other recreational drugs) in moderation, I actually quite like the smell too. :D

I am very much against "hard" and very addictive drugs. I don't see the point of taking a substance that is going to control your life and ruin your health.
 
I think people rather underestimate the implications of legalising cannabis.

Nearly all current cannabis production is done illegally and sold privately, the government can't tax something they don't supply. As a result, the only thing that would change is those selling cannabis, who I would like to point out are nearly always involved in other sorts of crime, most often higher classed drugs, will be completely free to make far more money and lets not forget these people are criminals, do you really expect them to start paying tax? They've got away with selling it illegally so far without getting caught.

Why do people seem to think that legalisation will result in only criminals selling it, when in fact almost all of the legal drugs like alcohol are sold by licensed shops and not criminals?
 
Just bought a vaporizer set recently, really enjoying the theraputic properties of a good toke on the weekends, i feel very relaxed and don't get as bored easily.

I think a lot of people are willing to forgoe the minor side-effects cannabis can produce for the multitude of medical benefits it can bring. Including the ability to kill brain cancer, prevent alzheimers, stop breast cancer spreading, relief from chrons disease and a host of other effects including appetite stimulation, relief for MS sufferers, treating alcoholism and other addictions, anxiety and depression, the list goes on and on.

Oh and don't get me started on the issue of high THC strains causing the correlated rise in 'mental health issues' among heavy users. Real weed has a correct balancing ratio of CBD which stops all the psychotic effects of THC. I don't know what the hell im smoking, is it indica or sativa dominant strain, has it been sprayed, grown organically, cut with glass, no idea. Dealers don't care about their users health, just profit, thats where government regulation of it could help.

I like the california model they have in the US, people are going to go do it anyway, why not regulate the production, educate people on its effect, clearly mark the produce with strength information and restrict its usage by age and for a specific medical issue, whilst making a nice little tidy profit and using some of the money to improve rehabilitation from harder drugs.
 
People spend craploads of money and risk their safety more by skydiving and basejumping, are you also against them?


Please point me to where I said I was against them. I said I don't understand.

Sky diving ect is a skill and they don't need to take drugs to get a high :D
 
Oh and don't get me started on the issue of high THC strains causing the correlated rise in 'mental health issues' among heavy users. Real weed has a correct balancing ratio of CBD which stops all the psychotic effects of THC. I don't know what the hell im smoking, is it indica or sativa dominant strain, has it been sprayed, grown organically, cut with glass, no idea. Dealers don't care about their users health, just profit, thats where government regulation of it could help.

The new strains of Hydro are High in THC & low in CBD which is why there are possible issues...
 
Why do people seem to think that legalisation will result in only criminals selling it, when in fact almost all of the legal drugs like alcohol are sold by licensed shops and not criminals?

Yeah, some people are just daft, the whole point of legalising it will be, to make it a profitable industry, regulated, easily obtainable, CHEAP and so there is no reason to go to some criminal to get your fix.

When you do that, rather than pay farmers to not use most of their land or lots of it, as we do now, they can add another crop, sell it legally, get taxed on the profits, sell it to regulated and legal stores, which can make a profit and get taxed on it, then sell it to customers, with a huge tax added to the cost like alcohol, cig's, petrol, etc.

We spend BILLIONS a year on fighting crime WE INVENTED by making drugs illegal in the first place.

Legalise it, regulate it, stop fighting crime based off it, gang culture will reduce, which will in turn reduce knife crime, gun crime, murders, assaults, and all the crime associated with funding the addiction, muggings, robberys, burglary, etc, etc.

We can go from spending billions fighting drug crime, gang crime, knife crime, to GENERATING billions in tax profit from the industry...........


Drugs weren't illegal for the vast majority of our history, over thousands of years drugs of all types, generally the same things as now, the world didn't fall apart, everyone didn't decide to remain high every second of their lives, the world built cities, waged wars, invented, civilised itself and grew despite being drunk and high a lot of the time, thats life.

We've generated more gangs, more murders, more violence, more crimes by making drugs illegal than the drugs ever, ever caused themselves. Then to fight these crimes and problems we generated, we spend billions of pounds we can't afford, and for 50 years, and the brilliant outcome of fighting crime we created is, overcrowded jails, and just as many drugs used as ever before, with everyone able to find anything they want just about anywhere and so many people using drugs its embarassing.

We've spent billions, upon billions for decades, and got no where, at all, we've created generations of criminals, convicts, violent people and broken families, when we could just regulate, tax, and make a shedload of money off the people who are still taking the drugs anyway.
 
We've spent billions, upon billions for decades, and got no where, at all, we've created generations of criminals, convicts, violent people and broken families, when we could just regulate, tax, and make a shedload of money off the people who are still taking the drugs anyway.

Perhaps it's a job creation scheme for the authorites. Imagine all of the police and bureaucrats that would lose their jobs if common sense prevailed! :eek:
 
Including the ability to kill brain cancer, prevent alzheimers, stop breast cancer spreading, relief from chrons disease and a host of other effects including appetite stimulation, relief for MS sufferers, treating alcoholism and other addictions, anxiety and depression, the list goes on and on.

I think you forgot world peace and an end to poverty.


Real weed has a correct balancing ratio of CBD which stops all the psychotic effects of THC.


Wha? Did you read there somewhere? Because it's nonsense. Normal cannabis has almost no CBD: if anything it actually has more cannabicyclol. The only exception are the "low-THC" strains grown commercially for hemp fibre: these have high CBD and almost no THC. That's because cannabis converts CBD to THC. Or doesn't. And cannabis which has gone off a lot: CBD is more stable than THC.


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I'm very much in favour of legalising cannabis. I've never touched the stuff, but it doesn't take a genius to see that prohibition does far more harm than good. Legalise it, and it becomes cheaper and easier to buy -> users aren't beholden to the dealer scum any more. And that's to say nothing of the fact that it's a far softer drug than alcohol.

But of course, it seems to be too politically inconvenient to talk about seriously in a public domain. Politicians don't want to antagonise the "think of the children" types.
 
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Wha? Did you read there somewhere? Because it's nonsense. Normal cannabis has almost no CBD: if anything it actually has more cannabicyclol. The only exception are the "low-THC" strains grown commercially for hemp fibre: these have high CBD and almost no THC. That's because cannabis converts CBD to THC. Or doesn't. And cannabis which has gone off a lot: CBD is more stable than THC.
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depends what strain of weed it is there are literally thousands of different strains all with varyng amounts of THC/CBD/CBG

there are different types of "highs" depending on those amounts
I'm very much in favour of legalising cannabis. I've never touched the stuff, but it doesn't take a genius to see that prohibition does far more harm than good. Legalise it, and it becomes cheaper and easier to buy -> users aren't beholden to the dealer scum any more. And that's to say nothing of the fact that it's a far softer drug than alcohol.

But of course, it seems to be too politically inconvenient to talk about seriously in a public domain. Politicians don't want to antagonise the "think of the children" types.
i agree if it were legal most people would just grow there own and never go near a dealer again.

its just as easy as growing fruit/vegetables and people would know exactly what they are getting
 
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i agree if it were legal most people would just grow there own and never go near a dealer again.

its just as easy as growing fruit/vegetables and people would know exactly what they are getting

But in the documentary, the police were actually targeting people growing their own plants. People who were pointedly not fuelling the drug trade. It's bonkers.
 
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